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When she makes a reference like that, I take her hand and make her touch herself and I say repeat after me, "Mommy, I would like a drink.' Then I place my hand on my chest and say 'Ok Morgan, you can have a drink.' For some reason when we started doing that a few years ago, it seemed to click in her head. Her 3rd person references have gotten better, but still happen. She doesn't call herself 'the Morgan' anymore. But she still has little things she says. We try to correct her as much as possible, unless she is upset when talking, then we let it go. My friends and family have seen how we correct her when talking and are doing the same thing we do. That seems to help a lot.
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If we examine Jana2676's approach.... we will realise that it's something that ALL of us can try at HOME... on our own & we don't need to wait for speech therapy sessions for this !!
So, way to go Jana2676 !!!
"Johnny wants milk." We look around as if confused and say "who's Johnny? where's this Johnny you're talking about... oh, you mean you. Then you should say this: 'I want milk.'" We tried to use a little humor so it didn't seem like criticism. He improved pretty quickly once we started drawing attention to the mistake, but like I said he still slips up once in a blue moon. Good luck with everything. My DD does this alot. She also tells kids and staff at school "Be nice to Jana's Morgie.' LOL She is so funny. When she makes a reference like that, I take her hand and make her touch herself and I say repeat after me, "Mommy, I would like a drink.' Then I place my hand on my chest and say 'Ok Morgan, you can have a drink.' For some reason when we started doing that a few years ago, it seemed to click in her head. Her 3rd person references have gotten better, but still happen. She doesn't call herself 'the Morgan' anymore. But she still has little things she says. We try to correct her as much as possible, unless she is upset when talking, then we let it go. My friends and family have seen how we correct her when talking and are doing the same thing we do. That seems to help alot. My 3.5 year old NT daugher just started using pronouns correctly. Occasionally she'll revert back to calling herself by name, but she's doing really great without any teaching on my part. My ASD son still speaks in third person the majority of the time; however, his speech therapists are not worried. My son has echolalia so I will say to him, "T says 'I want milk'," and he'll usually repeat after me. I have a lot of faith in our speech therapists and they say that pronouns are a tougher skill and it will come in time. Pronoun problems were there too in my ASD boy in the early years. Now he's 8 yr and he no longer has that problem... It take's time....the people whom the child interacts is also important. If he's constantly corrected during his nursery years, at home, back to school or even during the various therapies that they are sent and back at home again......with time, they CAN GET IT RIGHT....mine did. When my son started talking at age 3 he referred to himself in the 3rd person. By age 5 he was using "I" and "me" consistently and correctly. The only pronouns he tends to confuse is he/she when he's talking in a hurry, but often stops to correct himself. *I accidentally posted this in the hangout board so I copied it here* Adam is not quite 3.1. He just became verbal in November and is now talking up a storm. We could not be more pleased with his language skills at this point. However, while it seems pronoun usage is starting to emerge (he will occasionally refer to me or his Daddy as "you") he still always refers to himself in the third person. "Adam wet", "Adam go pee pee", "Adam go beach", etc. At what age do NT kids typically master pronouns? How can I work on this with him? I am literally at a loss. Everytime I start to try to think about how to stress the usage of pronouns when speaking to him my head starts to hurt. How can I correct him when he says "Adam want milk" by saying "No, say 'I want milk'". Then he's going to think that Mommy wants milk
She was mixing pronouns at three too. She never qualified for services and I couldnt afford speech at the time so I tried my best to teach her things on my own. One thing that helped the most was drawing. I would trace my hand print and say...this is MY hand print and then I would trace hers and say this is YOUR hand print...over and over again. Then she would get a turn and I would say "I" made this one, YOU made this one. Then I would ask her questions like "who made this hand print, ME or YOU? I used the same sort of thing when she would help me cook. I would say things like "YOU stir in the brownie mix, I will crack the eggs..." We did this for months. She picked up on it and she is fine with pronouns. I am new to the boards. We have the same problem. I hope you don't mind if I subscribe to get some ideas to help DD with this same problem. Donny's Mom, you are right. For the most part I still talk to him without using pronouns. I never realized I was doing this. "Mommy loves Adam". "Does Adam love Mommy?" "Mommy get Adam milk". "Mommy take Adam to school." Good night...no wonder he doesn't understand pronounsThis is very, very common in kids with ASD. My NT daughter picked up
My son is the same, "Dylan have biccy" for example. He sometimes adds "The" as well, "the dylan have biccy" not sure why and correcting him just confuses him too.
PERSON. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS ABOUT. IF SHE WANTS SOMETHING
I MAKE HER RESTATE IT IN 'I' FORM.
MY ASD DS WAS NOT REALLY TALKING AT AGE THREE, I THINK ONCE HE
STATRED TALKING HE REFERED TO HIMSELF IN THE THIRD PERSON AND
THEN LOST THAT BY THE TIME HE WAS FIVE. I DID NOT DO MUCH ABOUT
IT.
MY 9 YEAR OLD COUSIN WILL STILL TALK HIMSELF IN THE THIRD PERSON
AND IN BABYTALK. IT DRIVES HIS PARENTS NUTS - MAYBE THAT IS THE
REASON THOUGH HE DOES IT EVEN WHEN HIS PARENTS ARE NOT
AROUND.
I THINK AT AGE THREE I WOULD NOT YET WORRY TOO MUCH, MOST KIDS
ASD OR NT DO THIS AT SOME POINT.Pronouns are very hard for some kids with ASD to master. My son (who had
no speech delay) reversed his I and You consistently until this year at 4 years
old. It is actually a normal developmental phase for some NT kids as well.
Keep modeling when you can. J's problems were a matter of pragmatics and
were successfully addressed in group speech therapy.
BTW, Adam is so cute!
stopped. However, I notice my compensating for it hasn't, which I'm
trying to change. I wonder if you compensate for it also, which can cause
confusion.
For example, instead of saying to Donny "I love you", I'll say "Mom loves
Donny". It used to be that he didn't understand pronouns, so that was
the only way I could be sure he understood me, but he doesn't need that
anymore.
To teach him to use first person, we modeled it exactly the way you said
you were worried about.
eg, Donny would ask for juice by saying "you want juice?", and we would
correct him with "I want juice."
Also, to teach my/your, I/you, we'd sit opposite eachother, I would tap
Donny's chest and say "you", tap mine and say "me". Then I'd take his
hand and tap my chest and say "you", tap his and say "me". I'd make a
game out of it, and he'd get a tickle when he got it right. I tought my/
your by passing a toy or a candy back and forth doing the same thing.
We taught he/she and his/her using pictures. We'd go through
magazines, catalogues, etc., and ask him to point out all the "hes" and all
the "she's", etc. Then I'd ask "Show me her shirt", and so on.
It worked, because I catch him correcting himself all the time now. The
correction I hear most frequently is "you need help? - I mean, Help me
please!" and "I am, I mean you are_____".
Keep in mind, Donny is 10 and only semi-verbal. He had no intervention
at all before age 6 1/2. So I'm sure you're little guy will do just fine and
get those pronouns sorted out!Our son's SLP at Childrens National said NT kids should master pronoun usage by age 3.
pronouns by osmosis, my asd son had to be taught. At your son's age,
and given the fact his language is just emerging, pronoun confusion is
pretty much a given. You're doing the right thing by recognizing you'll
need to work with him on this and developing some games, etc you can
play to help reinforce the concepts. We actually had an ABA program that
specifically addressed pronoun usage. It took several months of regular
practice before my son started to use most pronouns correctly (and this
was at age 4.5). "Mine and yours" or "me and you" were the hardest for
him to master.
Keep working on it, and expect it to take awhile before he can
differentiate. I believe pronouns are hard for our kids because they are
generally used in the context of a dynamic verus static situation. In other
words, the usage and/or term changes based on the circumstances/
situation. Our kids are best at things that remain static.
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