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Rapid head growth, long fingers?

Anna's fingers are very long and skinny...I call them alien hands.  BOth my kids have big heads, but so does their daddy.  I hate it when I drive and he is the passenger seat because his head blocks the view.  I always have to yell at him "Get that huge noggin of yours out of my way"

I joke too that when I gave birth to my last big headed child I was reminded of how the end of a canon looked after shooting out an oversized canon ball.

 

 

My son was born with a big head and a very small neck, He stopped breathing when I had him in an infant seat I thought it was because his neck could not hold up his big head. Infant car seats were also a problem we had to put a board under it so he laid back far enough that his head would not come forward.My mom always said someday his body will catch up with his head and it has. His fingers are not abnormaly long. People were always commenting on his big head,but now  it looks normal. Luke's head circumference was always in the 25th percentile ... if anything, small.  His fingers are long and "artistic", but then so are mine. Jana, by how much? I'm just curious, can't find more info online.

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http://www.calacademy.org/thisweek/archive/2001/20010321.htm l :
Finger Length and Autism

Finger length may point the way toward an understanding of autism.
Scientists have long known that finger length is a characteristic
determined early in utero. Unusually long ring fingers in particular have
been associated with high levels of testosterone in the womb, and men
are generally more likely to have ring fingers closer in length to their
index fingers. Now, scientists have found that autistic children tend to
have ring fingers as long as or longer than their index fingers. The trait
also seems to run in families, because even healthy siblings and parents
of the autistic children were much more likely to have relatively long ring
fingers than the study's control population. The finding, published in
Developmental Medicine and Child Neurology, bolsters the theory that
autism is essentially a magnification of normal male traits, including
difficulties with verbal expression and empathy. The disorder affects
about one child in 500.
 

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I just checked my kids hands.  My son's ring fingers are longer then his pointer fingers.  My daughters ring fingers are the same length as her pointer fingers, so are mine. 

My son was born with large head, over the 100th percentile (macrocephaly) and went on to develop plagiocephaly.  I always wondered about this.  I have had it CT scanned (at five months) and everything was fine  My husband's head is large also...interesting about the fingers.  My son's are long, but mine are EXTREMELY long, longer than anyone I know (I have measured) and I am not a big person.   Love these tidbits of information!My child with autism never experienced this.  She was a very small baby and is now average height/weight, etc.  But my NT child did experience rapid head growth.  His head circumfrence grew by one inch in a six week period.  His body grew 5 inches in that same time period.  He cried all the time and was miserable from growing pains.  I took him in and the dr realized the rapid growth had taken place and tested him for cancer.  Thank goodness it was nothing, he will be a tall person like my husband.  But, when I read a study by the Univ of Tenn was looking for siblings that have had rapid growth, I contacted them.  I missed the study entrance date by about a month.  My son is now 3 and has developed normally.

I BELIEVE JACE WAS BORN WITH A NORMAL SIZE HEAD. HE HAD A SUBGALEAL HEMATOMA.(BLOOD VESSELS BREAK AND BLOOD POOLS BETWEEN THE SKULL AND TOP OF HEAD) SO HIS HEAD WAS A LITTLE OFF ON SIZE.

           HIS PED. DID SEEM A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THERE SEEM TO BE RAPID DEV. BETWEEN BIRTH AND 3 MOS. OLD. JACE HAS NORMAL SIZE FINGERS.

From memory, I can garantee you Nicky's head was big! 

And his fingers seem to be of normal length.

Jo.


http://www.calacademy.org/thisweek/archive/2001/20010321.htm l :
Finger Length and Autism

Finger length may point the way toward an understanding of autism.
Scientists have long known that finger length is a characteristic
determined early in utero. Unusually long ring fingers in particular have
been associated with high levels of testosterone in the womb, and men
are generally more likely to have ring fingers closer in length to their
index fingers. Now, scientists have found that autistic children tend to
have ring fingers as long as or longer than their index fingers. The trait
also seems to run in families, because even healthy siblings and parents
of the autistic children were much more likely to have relatively long ring
fingers than the study's control population. The finding, published in
Developmental Medicine and Child Neurology, bolsters the theory that
autism is essentially a magnification of normal male traits, including
difficulties with verbal expression and empathy. The disorder affects
about one child in 500.


Yikes. =o( Last night I thought they were talking about the ring finger
just being longer than the pointer finger, so I breathed some relief when I
looked at my kids' hands again. Their ring fingers are either exactly the
same length as pointers, or just a mm longer, depending on how the
fingers are lying. For that matter, MY ring/pointer fingers are the same
length, but my fingers are short, not long. Eek. Well, that's just one
more autistic "trait" for me! (I also see colors in printed letters/numerals.)

Although I've only been obsessing about Jair, all three of the kids have
several worrisome traits. Briana's teacher says she has a "processing
delay" and we've all been thinking she's ADHD, with a lot of sensory
issues "out of sync." Briana had a head-growth explosion around 5
months.

Lia, the baby, 11mos, doesn't feel pain, twists away as we hold her, and
has started clinching her little fists all the time, like Jair. We've been
trying to get her to say Momma, Da Da, but all she says is Nay or Nay-
Nay. She alternates between being very "easy" and extremely fussy, with
a tea-kettle scream. Lia's head is so small, she looks much younger than
her age. I've been relieved that it hasn't suddenly gotten bigger. sandcastle38770.6224768519i do remember at one point them telling me that franks head had grown too much in one month and then the next visit them saying everything was ok. don't remember what month is was or anything. and yes he does have long skinny fingers.I came across this study and found it unnervingly interesting. It was a
link to autism and an infant's rapid head growth during certain months.
The theory was that in this growth, the development of certain thingies
couldn't keep up, or something, sorry.

Jair was born with a very small head, but somewhere it grew to be a large
head for his age. Does anyone else relate to this?

Also, I was going to ask you all if any of your kids have really long
fingers. Neither John nor I do, but all of our kids do. Incidentally, I
decided to google this just now and ! there is some link between long
ring fingers and autism. !

Okay, go wake your kids up and look at their fingers. LOL

Okay, forget the fingers! I've been looking up more about this, and
apparently most women's ring and pointer fingers are the same length, while
most men have a longer ring finger than pointer finger. This study about
the correlation to autism is making less significant sense to me now. @@
BLAH! Long fingers still look funny to me - when they are all super long/
skinny, with tiny fingernails at the end. I've always told Briana that she has
piano-playing hands. I've always wished that I had longer, more ladylike
fingers myself.

Yikes.. Katie has always had a small head, but her feet were really large and her fingers really long at birth. They seem normal now. I just checked her hands and her ring finger is MUCH longer than her index(pointer) finger! I checked my nt son and his ring finger is shorter than his index finger. Freaky!

Renee

[QUOTE=sandcastle]Okay, forget the fingers! I've been looking up more about this, and
apparently most women's ring and pointer fingers are the same length, while
most men have a longer ring finger than pointer finger. This study about
the correlation to autism is making less significant sense to me now. @@
BLAH! Long fingers still look funny to me - when they are all super long/
skinny, with tiny fingernails at the end. I've always told Briana that she has
piano-playing hands. I've always wished that I had longer, more ladylike
fingers myself.

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LOL Holly!  I have long fingers for a woman, but it was an asset when I was playing sports in high school and college. 

 

My ring finger is significantly longer than my pointer.

Liam's fingers are quite long and his head is in the 95% percentile like his weight and height (33 pounds and 36 inches at his 15 month check-up).

 Have you ever seen kermit the frogs fingers? Well my entire family has these fingers. My two daughters have these long fingers as well as do I. My son and daughter have gigantic heads. We sometimes wonder how the little necks can hold it up. My son has no autistic type behaviors but both daughters do!

My son has very small hands.  Also a small head. My other kids I would say are just about average.  Can't really say if it makes a difference.  My fingers are the same length

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((laughing))

SigH! Don't you wish autism was just that easy?
Long fingers, Check!
Small/Big head, Check!
Okay, here's your sign, now all the world will embrace you...
 

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