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It's a wide spectrum. Sam is very withdrawn with new adults, but that's just him. They can talk a lot, but it's about appropriateness. Sam when he was diagnosed would talk about vacuums and his dog. If someone talked about something else, like driving, Sam would continue about vacuums.

I'm not recalling where a 3 year old should be in terms of language development. Hopefully someone else know, or I will try to find it in the morning.

I believe that Korbin does socialize and communicate appropriately.  He'll talk about a variety of things and stay on track, with what is being talked about.  As I've talked with people that know him they say they are very suprized that they are even considering Aspergers. 

I've looked at the criteria for diagnosing and he does meet other areas, but he does not meet the social aspect of it.  We talked with a pediatrician, who is our friend, and she does not believe he has Aspergers.  She thinks he is just an organized child and that most of what appears to be 'autistic like' is stemming from his SPD. 

I guess, the big question is, what treatment is provided for kids with autism/aspergers?  I know that early diagnosis is best, but is that so they can get early treatment?  I know it's not curable, but aren't their things that help?  I guess what I'm saying is, we already do occupational therapy, so he's getting weekly treatment.  What else would be done for a child with aspergers? 

He's developmentally on track, doing well.  He began walking at 9 months, talking by 12 months.  (And he speaks very well.)  He is almost 3 and knows all of his colors and can count to 10 and then back to 0.  So, I have no concerns in those areas.  The only thing I've had concerns about is his tantrums, that stem from the senational problems, which we are now getting help for.

Anyway, I appreciate all of your thoughts and ideas.  :)  Thanks.

Well, I admit my son has had little exposure to other children, other than church.  He attends a weekly class and the teachers say he responds appropriately with the other kids, interacting with them, sharing and saying please and thank you.  My son is not at all quiet. Is that something that is normal with autism?  My son is constantly talking, nonstop.  lol....I guess they say that's part of his proprioceptive issues with the SPD.  He's need for stimulation.  ??  It'll be interesting for me to see how he does in preschool.

Thanks!

My son has pretend play skills and wants friends, but doesn't go about it typically. He would stand too close or not realize when a child is engaging him or wander off in the middle of the game. His siblings may automatically make up for his deficits because they know how he behaves. It would be better to observe him with other children.

My son also holds together really well outside of the house and with other people. A lot of people think he is just quiet, but once he is used to the environment, the behaviors come out.

I think it's worth exploring more, but if you believe it's a wrong diagnosis, get a second opinion.

I have a son, almost 3, who was recently diagnosed with Sensory Processing Disorder.  I was told that they are concerned about him having high functioning autism/aspergers.  It makes no sense to me what is going on!

He is very rigid in his play and is obsessed with things.  He really struggles to transition from one activity to the next.  He has a lot of obsessive behaviors.  He has BIG sensory problems, hence the diagnosis of SPD.  He lines all of his toys up and is VERY upset if they are moved out of place.  He is constantly tantruming, from since he was very young, it's not just a 'terrible twos' thing.

Having said this, he is VERY socially appropriate.  He's my youngest of three, so understand social milestones.  He's very social and loves to talk. He has great facial expressions and he genuinly cares about people.  Although, he wants conformity in his play, he does play.  He does a lot of make believe and enjoys playing with his siblings.  He pretends to be a doctor and 'fixes' my arm.  He pretends to be a train conductor.  He plays 'mom and dad' with his sibligns.  None of that sounds like autism to me!

The OT said that because his sensory issue are so intense and because he has such need for structure and is very obsessive she thinks he's high functioning. And I asked that even though he is so social, she still thinks it's autsim and she said that it would be Aspergers.  But everything I've read on Aspergers said they still deal with social problems.  My son does not at all have social problems.

It's not just wishful thinking.  I'm not talking about him being a little social, he's overly social!  He's like a social butterfly!  How could that be any form of austim??  That makes no sense to me.

If he has autism then that's fine and we'll move forward with helping him, but I don't want him misdiagnosed.  My husband just thinks he's very left brained.  Any help or ideas would be appreciated.  I just want to know, can autistic kids be VERY, VERY social?  (Because I have never thought so, but this doc seems to think so.)

Just a note.  My son's 'autistic like behaviors' don't happen with anyone, but my husband and me and our older kids.  Everyone else sees him as a very 'normal' 3 year old.  He rarely tantrums or shows these behaviors with anyone but me, my husband and his siblings.  After spending a week with his grandparents, they were given a taste into his world. But, overall,  I swear my family thinks I make it up!  lol...  If it were autism, wouldn't it be ALL the time, not just sometimes??

I'll be curious to see how you respond to JulieA's questions to really help me form an opinion.

But my son is VERY social as well.  Overly so.  But he does not understand boundaries, he talks non-stop but about what HE wants to talk about.  With other kids he doesn't get the social rules per se.  He also does not follow a point or gaze like mentioned above.  But he in no way shape or form is shy.  He is very quirky and at 3 does get comments in public by parents due to his stimming behaviors.  And I've seen a few kids ask their parents why Blake jumps so much or flaps his arms.  To be honest though, if he didn't stim by flapping so often he would probably be concerned typical by most.  But all in all he is not what you typically know as Autistic.  

Your son can have OCD and SPD which is what I've often wondered about Blake.  But the fact of the matter is that the social aspect is not huge, but it is there enough to fit.  You may want to research PDD-NOS.

Was your son delayed in speech?  Does he have repetitive language issues?

Does he point (and if so how old was he when he pointed)?  If he does point to something is it for himself, or will he point to show you something?  And if he points to show you something will he look back at you to see what your reaction is?

Follow a point?

How is his joint attention (if you look at something- without telling him to look also- will he turn to see what you're looking at)?

Does he bring you toys and show them to you and then wait for your reaction to it?

Does he share enjoyment with you?

Julie-  He was pointing at things around 12 months, maybe a little earlier.  Yes, to all of your questions.  He shows me things, he points to things and he cares about what I think about it.  If I start to show interest in something, he comes over to see what I'm doing and wants to join in the activity.  We really don't have even a little bit of concern with his social development or interactions.  So, that's my question. If he has no social problems, but meets the other criteria, what is that??  BTW- Cute son!!

Shanda-lyn-  My son talks a lot...lol...but he'll follow the conversation of others.  So, if he's talking about trains and someone starts to talk about the dog, he's happy to change the conversation.  Following 'social rules' at age 2 is pretty tough for all kids!  His nursery leader (who has a phd in physcology) said she does not see any unnormal social behavior with him.

Well, he does have a lot of behaviors that seem like OCD, but I was told that that is not something that would be diagnosed until age 7 or 8. 

He's not been delayed in speech.  He was talking before 12 months.  And by 18 months you could have a full conversation with him, with full sentences and clarity of speech.  His pediatrician has said he's advanced with his speech.  He will repeat himself when he thinks he's not been heard, but if I make a response right away, he wont continue to repeat.  If I don't respond, like if I'm busy or not paying attention, then he will repeat it and can sometimes become upset and will say, "Listen to me!"  He is very demanding of my attention.  It may sound like I don't give him attention because he's yelling for me to listen to him, but I give him way more attention than I have with my other kids because he's so demanding of my attention.

 

 

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