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Reactions to forbidden foods

We haven't had that experience, but I've heard other people talk about reactions to forbidden foods getting stronger.  Have you tried using digestive enzymes to help dampen those reactions?

I was wondering if anyone could tell me if their child reacted more strongly to a forbidden food after they had been on the gfcfsf diet for a while, than they ever had before.  My oldest son (he is 23) cheats once in a while when he is out at an event and he reacts so strongly to the food compared to the way he used to be before we started him on the diet ... is this typical after they are no longer used to eating this way? (I'm talking "the exorcist" behaviors/look here)

also, I wondered if any of the higher-functioning adults with ASD on this board could perhaps help me out: my oldest son is almost totally non-verbal and when he has a food reaction, he tends to blurt out certain words, out of the blue, during these "food meltdowns" and I wondered if any of you might know what "colors" might have to do with anything?  He tends to yell "Yellow" or "Black" as he is getting more and more agitated ... does this have anything to do with "the darker the color, the worse he feels" maybe?  Does anyone else ever feel reactions as colors?  Your help in verbalizing my boys' thoughts has always been so greatly appreciated in the past ... thank you so very much.

Claire in snowy Canada

No idea about a Canadian counterpart - are there legal issues with ordering supplements from another country? 

The company's main website is here: http://www.houston-enzymes.com/ but I always order from www.ourkidsasd.com.  Our kids does free shipping for orders over $40 - enter the coupon code FREE when you check out. 

Thanks so much for that info, Janie.  Any idea if that company has a Canadian counterpart?  Is there a website I could check out?

Thanks again.

Claire

No - enzymes and probiotics both help digestion but in different ways.  Probiotics are the healthy flora that the gut needs to stay healthy; enzymes literally help break the food down.  They're just another version of the body's natural digestive enzymes.

Kirkman's has some, but the ones I'm most familiar with are from Houston Nutraceuticals.  I give DS three - AFP Peptizyde, which helps break down proteins; Zyme Prime, which helps break down carbs (and some other stuff that I can't remember); and No Phenol, which helps break down phenols.  THey all come in both capsule and chewable forms, and the chewables taste good, so DS actually reminds me when I forget them :)

Thanks for your reply to this post, Janie.  I am not familliar with digestive enzymes ... are these available from Kirkman Labs?  I use some of their products and they seem to work for my boys.  We already use probiotics ... are these similar to enzymes?

Thanks for your help.

Claire

OK, Janie, I have just received a DVD from Houston Enzymes (so many different products!!) in the mail and I am not sure which one to start with.  Both my boys are full adult-sized and both take probiotics daily.  My youngest still has very soft bowel movements and my oldest reacts strongly to "forbidden foods" whenever he cheats off his gfcfsf diet.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.  Chewable forms would be marvelous but I have opened up capsules before and added contents to their foods/drinks too.

Thanks so much for your help on this.

Claire

Hi clairemac!

I am not sure if this has anything to do with your question, but when I was studying psychology in college, I met with a woman who only tasted in color. She would say something tastes 'blue' or 'green' and it had nothing to do with her mood or the color of her food. Her psychologists believed her brain was 'wired' differently and somehow the circuits for 'taste' and 'color' were crossed.

She would tell me the 'blue' foods didn't taste good at all and the 'yellow' foods were her favorites.

I also met a man who tasted in shapes. To him, something would taste square or round, pointy or bumpy. (He made sure to tell me it didn't FEEL bumpy or pointy...but TASTED that way.)

When I read your initial post, this experience came immediately to mind. Your son's reaction may simply have to do with his brain being 'wired' a bit differently. And specific foods may stimulate different responses. Especially when he is experiencing a 'food meltdown'.

My Aspergher's step-son also has 'melt-downs' in regards to certain foods. Anything with Red dye, any sugar, and especially when he hasn't gotten enough protein. I keep organic cheese and summer sausage with me all the time. If his behavior begins to change, I immediately let him snack on that and it levels him out.

I've also kept him on supplements that level his blood-sugar or glucose levels. I am a hypo-glycemic sufferer myself and it's amazing what an instable glucose level will do to effect someone's behavior.

Anyway, hope this helps in some way!

Thanks for the feedback on color-tasting, Anastasiia.  That is very interesting.  A friend of mine also suggested perhaps my son remembers a specific color associated somehow with that particular food whenever he ate it for the very first time (my son tends to remember vividly associative things like this ... the very first cow he ever saw was black and white and when he saw a maroon-colored cow a few months later, he had a fit when we insisted this too, was a cow ... in his mind, the only cow possible was this black and white one he had first seen!)

So maybe he was wearing a yellow shirt on the first day he ate that specific food (of course, he can remember this stuff with his amazing memory but it's a whole different issue with his menopausal mum's memory!!!)

I have yet to read of others who can taste in colors, but the way my boys' brains seem to be wired so differently, I would not be surprised if somehow, these senses got mixed up.  Thanks for your input.

And thanks, Janie for the info on enzymes.  My pharmacist is looking into getting these for me (otherwise I would have to pay customs fees at the border and sometimes, they turn some pharmaceutical products away at the border because of different Food and Drug Standards issues.)

Claire  

If it's proteins they're reacting to (gluten, soy, casein), I'd start with the chewable AFP peptizyde.  It's designed to help break down those proteins.  There's a dosage schedule on the website that tells you how to get started (my DS has been on them so long, I've forgotten what it is!).  Give them the enzyme before each meal and anytime you know there's been a dietary infraction. 

I also give DS the chewble Zyme Primes.  They target starches more than proteins and are yet another weapon in our ongoing yeast war. 

Thanks so much, Janie.  I'll try those two and let you know how it goes for my boys.  Wishing you continued success with your little guy.

Claire

 

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