any experience with this test?She got scores such as 99 on Story recall, 102 on brief reading skill, 97 on written language. Average is 90-110. Another assestment has her writing, reading and speaking skills below grade level. With scores like that I would be surprised if she even qualified for special ed services let alone putting her in a self-contained class.Thanks! I was worried over this, they are making it seem like she is doing poorly. She also did very poorly in social skills and speech. Her IEP is tomorrow I'll report back on what they say. Do you have the actual scores? When you say low side of average do you mean high 70's to 80's. You really need to compare the full scale IQ score to the score on the Woodcock Johnson. My young students cannot do do anything on the Woodcock Johnson. I teach a self-contained class. But generally for kids in general ed the Woodcock Johnson tends to give inflated scores. California and Texas have the highest state standards, which do not correlate with the WWJ III at all. For example my daughter took the test last year. She was in 2nd grade. In math she scored 3.5 grade (meaning middle of the year 3rd grade) but in reality she was scoring below grade level on all district and state assessments. for second grade. But according to the WWJ III, she was advanced. I personally do not like the test. For kindergarten age kids I like to use the Brigance, but this does not yeild a standard score, so it cannot be used to determine if a learning disability exists.I guess it depends on what state you are in and what her IQ score is. Does anyone have any experience with this test, Woodcock-Johnson III tests of Achievement, Form A? My dd has an IEP tomorrow and we just got the results for this test. She was 5 years and 11 months at the time of test. She has been in a mainstream kindergarten class with no supports or services of any kind since starting in Sept. I'm worried that they will try to move her to a special ed class, even though she has no behavior problems, just difficulty interacting and focusing. Anyway she scored on the low side of average in everything except math. She scored on the high side of average on that. I think these are pretty good test results considering that she's only been in kindergarten for a few months. The things she did poorly on were writing sentences and reading comprehension and reading. Now some of her friends and family members the same age in other schools aren't even reading at all yet. They commented that she left a period off a sentence. Is it me or does that seem like kind of a high standard? Again I think scoring in average range is good, am I missing anything? Oh and I know that the test is scaled down to the month for age appropriateness, but I still think it's a on the high standard side. I guess that my question at this point would be how does she behave in class (due the HFA). My district likes to push disruptive kids into the special ed classes, and non-disruptive kids they like to exit. So they might be painting a picture of poor performance to try get the special ed class if she's disruptive.OTHO with my older kid they did this before the IEP meeting, and we went in all set to argue for a inclusion placement, and they exited him and we were not prepared for that. (He is not disruptive, he will sit and read.) Nothing I have said relates to what the placement "really" ought to be, only what my district seems to like to push for... You need to find out what's appropriate in some fashion so you can advocate for that. Hi Linda, The IEP went very well. I'm starting to understand that ASD kids just don't score well on tests. One of my friend's son took it and he has an IQ of 170 and he still did not do well on the writing portion, same as my daughter. But in all honesty I think the test is just not age appropriate. I know they tell me it's age appropriate down to the month but I just don't see many kindergarteners, even bright NT kids getting high scores. Anyway she is getting a lot more services this year, speech and one on one help with the resource specialist. She has only been getting services for a few weeks now and it's already making a tremendous difference. She can now read twice as many words as she was before getting services. They tell me that even her social skills are improving. If your child is going to take the test or has taken the test don't be disappointed if the results don't come back well. Just get your child all the services you can and go from there. Good luck to T on her evals. :) Thanks for the forewarning! T took it in Kg, as I recall -- will need to look up her scores then ... and I DO agree, I think T scores way below her actual ability on any test she has ever taken. Glad your dd is doing well, too! How cool to see results so quickly! (Our first IEP began like the last 3 weeks of school, so hard to tell ANYTHING!). Thanks again! Oh, here is the whole list of her evaluations: Woodcock-Johnson 3; TOWLIII; CASL; ASSET; plus classroom observation by autism coach. T is getting Woodcock-Johnson 3, sometime this month, too! As part of her triennial. |
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