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What to you think about mainstream.

I have a child with PDD NOS, he have a speach problem,  he can speak  but some times we need to slow him down to undestand. he is in a classrom with another 7 kids with autism, every one have diferents issues.

I went to the classrom one monday and they have problems with one kid, trouwing chairs and they put him away, in mean time the rest of the classroom stay with one of the helpers, and me , the hole classroom was iterrupted and to calm dow the rest  of the group  put them 3 movies  in one day, my son work writing his name  one page , thats all he did  in the hole day. y wen back  the next day  to see if is going to be diferent , was a little more  relax but the same  the work he did was one page of his name  and  one page of numbers. Computer only games.......... play in a sand box, pleido . ......

i went to the nex week becasue i want  my son to go to mainstream group, and if one of the kids have a problem , they take all of them out of the classroom ..... i went  because then my son can stay if another kid have a problem. they take another kid out  and i stay with the rest of the kids don't have any problem.

Now, thursday  they  don't went  because  they have a suplent teachear ,  we went back to  the closter. and wor with  his name again and  numbers.

monday ..............my son start trouwing chairs( first time ever)  i saty the  day  there helping  my son to get over the frustration, take me half hour , but he need to catch up with  the work  he miss because he get angry.

Now ..........i am asking to put  my son in maistream group , because he can see better behavior there, he like to participate with  the class , and he did rigth, he give a good answers, ad he like the  other kids and the others kids like him.

I am waiting for a answer ..... what to you think , you will do the same then me? I am asking  for to mouch

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 The class you described does not sound like  a good environment ...I think watching movies at school is  NOT appropriate and is a poor educational practice.  You need to ask for your son to be placed in the least restrictive environment possible .  Your child should not have to leave the the general ed class just because another student misbehaves.   It sounds like your son could be very successful in a general ed setting with appropriate supports. drmomtojoe39911.214375

It is his civil rights to be included in mainstream society and education if you choose.  The answer is your's to make not theirs.   Special education is a service not a place; meaning he's entitled to speech, OT, etc in any class he's in.   They have to provide reasonable supports to him IF YOU want him in a gen. ed. class.

It is only an opinion if the teacher/therapist/principal etc etc says he's better where he is and isn't not legal.   Meaning, because a teacher/therapist/principal says it's better for a child to stay in a class it doesn't mean the law supports it or it upholds his rights. 

You don't need to provide proof to place him in a gen.ed.  class (he doesn't have demonstrate he's "good enough") it is the place he's legally entitled too;  the school has to prove that positive strategies (ABA, function behavior assessments, visuals, modifications etc), aide and interventions didn't work in a Gen ed. class before removing him. 

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Tkyou for your answers and coments, rigth now they told me  they going to place him in another place, but not in a mainstream class , ...... i am going to wait  what is going to be the next placement .... hope is mouch better .....

He now have support in school :speach 30 minutes a week , OT another 30 minutes , and in home  i take him with a teacher twice a week two hours , piano 30 minutes a week and horsetheraphy one a week , he his taking medicine  for his poor atention and concentration, and still going , i work with him in  home the time he is free, doing sports , taking him with friends when  he have time to learn how to play with a normal social enviorement, and we do sports all the time. skates , bike swim, rckclimbing, skiing ...........i take him with a DAN doctor too work with him for two years ............

I hope now school do his  work  to put him in a lest restrictive place.

the teacher is very good , but  they have hands full with anothers  students  need more atention, but i am looking for my son  to  have his time and atenttion too .

this  what you tell me help  me  tinking i am in the rigth way  about my decition , tks  and keep in touch ......

He should definiely be mainstreamed. My son is PDD-NOS, he didn't say ma-ma until 18 months, nor did he walk until then. Hedidn't speak 3-4 word sentences until he was 3+. We put him in a developmental pre-k class when he was 4, but we felt it didn't help him. We enrolled him in public school when it was time for kindergarten. He didn't speak or socialize well, he had boundary issues, (going from room to room). He had frequent temper tantrums at first, but each time he was promoted, he socialized better and his speech improved rapidly, (he was receiving speech therapy, and did until last year when by my wife and I and the therapist that he no longer needed it). My son came to realize that to get what he wanted he needed to talk. He still gets occupational therapy for his fine motor skills. My son will be 13 this summer and he's doing great. By the way I forgot to mention that in class he has a paraprofessional who works with him in class and she and even his classmates help him stay focused. Sometimes his attention drifts. He has many friends who he enjoys playing with. He's doing very well, he makes us proud. Mainstreaming, GO FOR IT.

 

 

As long as you're comfortable with the classroom placement; that's what counts.

Just remember you have the say to place him where YOU want. 

By the way, it sounds like he's doing great. 

Mk50+ Glad to hear your ds is doing so well. 

Here are some resources for comparing placements:

http://www.autism-pdd.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26270&am p;KW=placement+

How old is your son?

 

he is 8 years old but he born last day of june thats why i want him in second grade, they want to put him in 4 grade but not mainstraim.

 

 

tks for all the coments i am reading very well then i can  feelt strong.

So he'll soon turn 9.  Am I understanding you correctly that you want him in second grade next year, because that's the level he's performing at?  Is he physically small for his age?

 

rigth now he plays with a kid here  next door to our house he is in first grade  and they look almost the same.......he is not to big and tod to short....

and not  he still  working hard to make him him to perform that way , he is not reading and writing very poor,  but it is the same problem , writing his name over and oven  not help, and  20000 time the leter p  not help, they focus in the eip and  the gools, but he need more then  that . i am asking  for maistreain group and aide  3 years a go, but  they always told me he need this group,  but now  isee his behvior it is going worse and worse, ..... and  i am tired, this going to be  they last chance....to see if they can found a placement dorrect fo  him ....

one ore thing.............his behavior it is only in school............no somere else. and he go to super sports camp with normal kids ,  he go to school in mexico evey time i am in off track he spend  the mornings in a normal school there,  horses , piano  home ...............only in school have his bad behavior....

how can i explaind that when he start trowing chair in school  i went overthere and i fix his problem in 30 minutes , they can stay  the  all day with traing to fix that problem  with the another kid ..... the rest of the day he waa perfectly fine

in the time i was there i see problems like they  don't ear him , what he said , and  after he tray two times  y just explote, and the helper put him  down in the behavior chart ..... 

i am writing all this because i know i am going to have a meating  with them ..... and i am tired to be nice, there are nice to me , but they dont give me what  i ask , not once.....

It sure sounds like he's not getting what he needs in that placement, since he does well in other group settings (like school in Mexico and sports camp).  One thing that should help is if you make all demands in writing.  I have some sample letters here:

http://www.autism-pdd.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=18727&am p;KW=sample+letters

Many parents on this website swear by the book "From Emotions to Advocacy" for learning to fight for your child's rights:

http://www.amazon.com/Wrightslaw-Emotions-Advocacy-Education -Survival/dp/1892320096

Good luck!

Yikes, it sounds like they're not providing good transactional supports.

You may want to get recommendations from an outside ST, OT for support he needs by staff.  You can do this through by requesting an IEE (Independent evaluation) in writing from the school.

What ever ideas you think are important for ask a professional to put it writing as a recommendation on your ds's behalf.  Even if it's your pediatrician and your child needs help with tying his shoes.  The school is more inclined to listen to professional recommendations because they can be potentially held accountable if the issues go to a Hearing and professionals have more "authority".

These are some typical staff supports for ASD kids:

Offers breaks from interaction as needed or redirection to other alternative activities

Provide direction for reengagement in interactions & activities following breaks

Interprets "problem behaviour" as communicative or regulatory: partner model more appropriate way or provide regulating strategy

Honors protests, rejections, refusals when appropriate

Provides a balance of initiated and respodent turns.. not too many ?'s or commands

Allows child to initiate and end activities

Uses words & intonation to support optimal arousal & engagement level

Shares emotions, internal states, & mental plans with child

Provides guidance for success in interaction with peers

Provide guidance on expressing emotions & cause of emotions

Provide guidance for interpreting others feelings & opinions

Adjusts complexity of language to child dev. level ie use single words

Adjust quality of language to child's arousal ie uses calm tone when child very aroused

Models apprporiate behav. when child uses inappropriate behavior

Models "child perspective" language considering the intentions and dev level

Offers repeated learning opportunities ie choices making at snack, circle, lunch etc

Offers varied learning opprtunities by adding to or turn taking in familiar activities

Uses visual supports for needed tasks, and particpation in activities.

Adjusts social complexity to support organziation & interaction ie smaller group, 1:1

Adjust task difficulty for child success ie reduce/simply steps when agitated

Modifies sensory properties of learning environment

Arranges learning environ. to enhance attention ie small mats for circle identify spots

Arranges learning environ. to promote child initiation ie puts items out of reach to encourage requests

Designs and modifies activities to be dev. appropriate ie, language, motor, attention

Infuses motivating materials & topics in activities ie favorite characters, gross motor

Provides activities to promote initiation & extended interaction ie paints with tight lids etc

Alternates between movement & sedentary activities as needed based on child arousal

"ups the ante" or increase expectations appropriate

TKS SO MOUCH ...I START WORKING IN MY OWN LETTER WITH ALL THE EXAMPLES HERE ......

ALOT  OF HELP HERE ! GRACIAS !!!!!!!!!!!

 
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