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I don't want to scare you but I will tell you my run in with DCS/CPS.

They came to my house on reports of my daughter from her school.  I let them in thinking no biggie.  By the end of the interview all 3 of my kids were taken.  They right there on the spot determined my daughter was abused and neglected, and that my youngest daughter had bruises all over her.

Funny thing is the ER reported no bruises.  Both my girls have scarring from eczema.  They have accused me as well as the foster mom of causing my daughters behaviors.  They also accused me of medical neglect because my daughter had dry skin.  She was diagnosed with ichthyosis.

After a couple months of my kids being in foster care the therapist finally started to see that there were in fact things different about my daughter.  Even the caseworker that was involved with my case finally realized that this wasn't caused by me.  My kids were returned to me but with no apology.  The school didn't apologize.  Aren't they suppose to recognize such conditions as ADHD and Autism?

I suggest maybe asking if you can bring your child in to be interviewed.  Never allow them to interview them by themselves and don't believe them if they say they have a right to.  Maybe tape record anything you can. Have witnesses.  Try not to give them to much info as they like to turn things around.  As one other person mentioned this isn't a time to joke or make funny remarks. 

OK

I am in hennipin county and I would think that they are busy.

I would not even want to open that door of asking let alone letting someone else ask... my problem is once something is said her brain starts processing and it take a long time  minutes or days. exp  MIL asked her about her finger  (we have wart problems ) and then sujested that maybe she should cut it off WTF ... and a few days later DD came home with blood all over her dress and a bandaid on her finger um.... I did not touch the subject as I has taken me months to convince her that her moles are jaguer spots that will make her fast. If she had her way they would be removed also UGH!

So the interview presents a danger to my child!!! IMHO

ok I will print my med list and the doctor list THANKS so much HUG!!

let you know in the afternoon

OMG  camjen  I am so sorry

I am glad I will have support here with me...we have alway had [problems with her behaving worse with me.

I asked what this was regaurding and had been told that telling me would start the interveiw and he wanted to do that in person.

Again it seems a case of to much power... I called DD socailworker today and only recieved a e-mail in return. I could have more people her but our home is so small and I even asked the man is he had problems with dogs and agreed to put the dog out foe he as he has been bitten before.  This is going to keep me up :(

How long ago was the finger incident? And did she use something sharp to try to actually cut off her finger? SERIOUSLY? Did she come home from school like this - and if so, WHAT ON EARTH WERE THEY DOING letting her have access to anything sharp?

Hennepin County should be pretty busy - but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Kids with disabilities generally get top priority in terms of responding. They are the most vulnerable - so that is the way it is. Which is why I'm trying to prepare you - but hopefully not terrify you!

camjen1 - I am so sorry for what happened to you and your family. That should never happen. However, most judges are going to probably side with CPS if a parent is not cooperative in letting the child be interviewed. It is a part of procedure - and really, a necessary one in order that the child feels safe enough to tell if there is something going on. If a parent is hovering, a child is not going to tell if they are being abused. However, in a case of a child with autism - there should be procedures in place and an expert in autism present. Because of the communication disorder - things will get confused and not said accurately.

Heck, my ds who is almost 8, very high-functioning, intelligent and rather good at communicating can stymie ME at times. His perception of time is not always great - he was reporting an incident to me a few weeks ago where a child had tattled on him. He was telling it to me and my interpretation (and my dh's as well) was that this had happened either that day or that week. No - after MUCH probing, I discovered it had happened at the beginning of the school year! So, if you didn't know him - and know how to communicate with him - you would not know that rather important piece of information. At 3 1/2, his communication skills were obviously less than they are today and I cannot imagine him having been able to accurately tell a story. In fact, that was one of his IEP goals until he was about 6 (and he achieved that goal eventually!). He really is doing so well now that I sometimes forget that part of his disorder is a communication disorder - because he generally communicates pretty well. But, when he is upset - some of that goes out the window, which is probably true for most of us!

I would definitely want the therapist present in the interview. And you should definitely take the time to explain how literally she takes things and how easily she is swayed into thinking things.

I will continue to send good vibes your way!
snoopywoman39909.8047569444I'm so sorry! I don't mean to freak you out. But, it is best to be prepared for anything just in case. I am the type of person who prepares for the worst and then is usually pleasantly surprised when it doesn't happen. I have found I prefer this than the opposite plan.

I would make a list of anyone who provides support to you. That way, when they ask - you can reference it so you don't forget. I find having lists is helpful because in a stressful situation I can forget my name!

I would make a list of her meds, even if you feel you know them by heart - for the reason listed above (forgetting in times of stress).

I would also let the social worker know that the kids have had a long day already - with dentist appointment and play therapy before the interview. That at least lets them know that they have a shorter window of time to get any kind of cooperation from your dd (I don't know that for sure - but I would guess this would probably be the case for her after a long day!).

Really, you haven't done anything - so you should be fine. I'm just giving you info so that you will be prepared.

I don't know where you live - but in some communities it is hard to get a social worker out and in others - they come for anything. In our old community - they would come for anything, which is why I helped my friend out. She did get help from them - and she did need it, but she was also relieved when they were out of her life as well and she just had the supports that they had referred her to.

Also, I would ask (even though they probably will not tell you) - what this is regarding? Because that is a natural question to ask if you haven't asked it already. I think most people would wonder why they feel like they need to interview a 3.5 year old child with autism!

Also, it may not have to do with you. I can't remember if she goes to school? If she does and she said something to someone at school about someone who works at the school - they may want to question her. I would think they would do that at school, but you never know...

Has she said anything to you about anyone touching her or hurting her? Whatever you do - DO NOT ASK HER! You will mess up the interview unintentionally. I just wondered if she had mentioned it out of the blue. Again, I cannot stress this enough - DON'T ASK HER ABOUT IT. It will just confuse her and make things harder in the long run.

Good luck and let us know how it goes. Try not to freak out - this too shall pass...

OK now you are freaking me out.

I will call and leave Don a message indicating I would like someone with experanced contact with ASD toddlers present if an interview is to be comducted. I can not wait to get this over with... I can offer that if he want questions asked I am ok with my therapist present. DD is normally been ok with strangers but the past to weeks have been strange the only male contact she has is with dad the neighbors and he night bus driver and aid ??

My DH acts like this is a visit from the easter bunny - seems to have no consern at all.

Well should be an eventfull day OT ST for both kids double dentist appointment them home to play therapy and a visit from CPS.  Oh I need a drink j/k I to have a big problem with sarcasim and I do not feel better after talking to my friend who as a social worker said she could never get CPS to go out for anything.

support line? list of nannys I use? neighbors that help out? friend that can step in in a pinch?

Do I need to provide medical info like meds???

UGH!

ok more cleaning and planning

I forgot to mention that I hope everything works for the best tomorrow and please give us an update as soon as possible.

Also sending good vibes!!!!

ok

We set up meeting for tuesday afternoon during DD play therapy at our home. So now I believe it is about my ASD DD as I was asked if she was verbal and he stated he wanted to interview her???? she is 3.5 and she is going through a very defiant stage ... I believe weight gain over 1.5 yrs has found a need to adjust meds.

So I will have my BF ( who is PCA for DD ) and a therapist that has been working with our family for over an year here.

Now to clean my home UGH!! What info can they ask for and can they talk to my 3.5 yr old??

Thanks again for the help

Yes they can talk to your 3.5 year old if you give permission. Technically, I think they could talk to her anyway.

It sounds like they want to talk to her about physical or sexual abuse if they want to interview her. I don't mean to scare you - just stating that that is what it sounds like to me.

I would call them back and explain that if they wish to interview her - they need to bring along someone with expertise in autism. Since autism is a COMMUNICATION disorder - anyone interviewing her who does not have expertise in autism may not conduct a "good" interview (in other words, get correct information out of her). I would also express concerns about interviewing a 3.5 year old with autism. No matter how "verbal" she is - her ability to communicate is another story. I would especially be concerned about a male interviewing her - unless your dd is comfortable with males. Even so, that's a little creepy if he wants to do that alone - and I honestly wouldn't let him unless he had a female co-worker with him.

I am glad you are having the therapist there because s/he can testify as to whether or not your child will really be able to accurately communicate during an interview with someone she doesn't know at all.

Definitely clean your house - don't kill yourself doing it,though. But, I would go so far as to make sure that you have childproof locks on outlets and anywhere else that might be deemed "dangerous". Cabinets, outside doors (if you have a runner), appliances, etc. Don't go run out and buy these things if you don't have them - but if you have them and don't have them attached - attach them before they come. Make sure any kind of cleaning solution or poisonous things are locked up and/or out of reach. If you had any firearms, make sure they are locked and ammo is away from them. I would lock up any liquor as well. I'm not saying you have any of this stuff - but just covering all the bases. If you smoke, do not do it in front of the social worker (if at all possible) and remove all ashtrays from sight.

Should you have to do all this? NO! But, I'm just telling you how to leave a better first impression. Try not to be too nervous (easier said than done, I know!) because you have done nothing wrong. But on the other hand - remember to watch what you say. If they start making you nervous by their line of questioning and start making accusations - try to be as calm and polite as you can (do this throughout). I doubt they will do that, but you never know.

Make sure that you have support lined up and that you know who you can call in an emergency for help (this will show them that you are organized and prepared).

Again, I'm not trying to scare you - just trying to help you be better prepared. I'm sure it will go fine, but the better prepared you are - hopefully the better things will go.

I will be thinking about you tomorrow! Please update when you know more.

I know how strapped the budget us here and am the only on I know that has a social worker for my oldest. ( they have not aproved kids with ASD only and wehave other medicail issues through the few years GERD and bladder reflux ect ) She is trying to find me respit and I am on all the waiting lists. But I am alone much of the time as husband travels alot. finding PCA's is a fulltime job... I have a good amount of hours but not always someone to fill them.

Well still waiting to here back :(

thank you all for your time and ideas :)

After dealing with CPS (because of foster care of relatives that turned into adoption) I totally TOTALLY agree with SnoopyWoman.  In our opinion it was better when our services were not affiliated with CPS  We, instead of taking help from CPS took help from people in our church, and CPS was good with that, as long as they saw that when we need help, we had help from people, and were involved in some type of community to recieve support from.
This support can be found in, friends, family, church friends, support group people, etc. 
I had something similar happen quite a few years ago. It was nerve wracking but know that more than likely they'll just come out talk to you and then dismiss whatever concern it was. Someone had reported that I didn't feed my child properly but immediately upon meeting me and speaking with me the social worker who came out knew the person was mistaken. Best of luck. 

Snoopy gave excellent advice and no way can I top it ... your MD charts should hopefully indicate the reasons for your youngest's health issues.

Just want to wish you luck and I'll be thinking of you.

foxl  thank you

Schools are mandated reporters meaning that they can get into legal trouble if they see anything that might resemble neglect or abuse and not report it.  The vast majority of CPS investigations turn up zero.  Be truthful with them and TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY.  Yes, OPPORTUNITY.  CPS has a budget to provide respite and parent training, so see if they can give you any "help."  Of course, they will find that the complaint is unfounded, but perhaps they can give you support anyway.  As i said, take advantage.  We can all use as much support as we can get.While tzoya gives a good suggestion - you also have to weigh whether having CPS in your life by providing respite and parent training will cause you extra stress. And thus kind of void the relief you are getting from respite.

CPS can be there to help - and if you need it, it is a great opportunity. I, for one, would rather get help from someone not affiliated with DHS/CPS. I don't want to always feel on edge and having to watch everything I say for fear it gets reported. I don't always think before I talk (which has gotten me into trouble on occasion and I am working on it). Perhaps CPS/DHS could give you a referral to respite services? In general, unless you are on their caseload - I doubt if they will give you any support services. Usually, they will provide referrals and move on (at least in our state). Our state is in such dire consequences our governor was considering raiding school districts' reserve funds and taking those to put in the general fund for the state. Seriously! So, I don't think they're going to approve any extra at this point...

Hi,

So I recieved a call from CPS and I was just wondering if this has happened to anyone here. I have no idea which child it is about or what it is about but I am thinking they will not share that with me.

The only thing I can think is my little one is under 3%  on weight and has nursemaids elbow and it has been put back in place two times.

But if it is my ASD child and her meltdowns screaming or someone that thinks they can do better. UGH I guess I should feel luck someone is looking out for little ones.

Any words of wisdom ?? Thank you

She is 20 months and I have had feeding evals and discussed it with the Doctors and OTs and I think we are all ok with it. 3 months of ear infections didn't help much. My ASD 3 1/2 year old had weight / eating problems and never gained great till some of her meds kicked up her hunger.

I'm so not sure what to expect.....

I have not had that happen, but having been somewhat on the other side of the fence as a social worker - they SHOULD tell you what child it is that a complaint is about. They will NOT tell you who called it in.

If there is anyone you can get to come over (that you trust) to be with you - that would be a good thing. I did this for a friend when an in-home worker called CPS on her for a VERY minor thing, which was resolved quickly. I think it helps to have a witness and someone to lean on as well. Also someone to be able to process what is being said - because you probably will be too nervous to be able to (I know I would be!).

I would call back as soon as possible - to show cooperation. They have to investigate calls - and it may turn out to be nothing. I would be as cooperative as you can be - but also be VERY careful what you say. Do not joke, do not use expressions - those may be misinterpreted. For instance, do not even jokingly say something like "my kids are great but sometimes I just want to throttle them". I have said this to friends COMPLETELY joking (and they know that) - but this is NEVER something to say to a social worker investigating a possible CPS case.

BTW, if this does turn out to be your little one who has nursemaids' elbow - and that is the reason - I would talk to your doctor/nurse and make sure you are on the same page. If they don't trust you - then you may need to seek a new doctor. You have to have a good doctor-patient relationship and not be leery of bringing your child in for fear of getting accused of abuse.

Good luck with this! I'm sorry this is happening to you. It's always my fear - when you have a child with a disability, you are much more likely to be investigated for abuse. Which is good that they look out for kids who are more vulnerable and unable to protect themselves - but it puts even MORE pressure on all of us, who already have enough on our plates to deal with...
Hoe old is your young child? I hope he/she is okay. That is a very low
weight. I hope you get it all sorted out.

snoopy THANK YOU

I kinda wonder if it was a call from a PCA from last year that left on bad terms but it seems it must be something recent and from someone that has contact with the kids within the last 90 days???

It is driving me a bit nutty running it through my head . I do happen to be in your state. well one more call on monday

ok

I am still decompressing UGH!!!

I still have two kids and I have learned a very good life lesson.

The complant alengded negglect of BOTH of my children

I was questioned on my drinking which is 1-2 drinks a month

I was asked about filling my childs bottle with alcohal

I was asked about medicating my children because I was over whelmed

intentionaly over medicating my ASD child - to a zommbie like state

putting benynidril in my 20 month olds bottles to help here sleep

dislocating her sholulder 3 times

And as I figured the invesagator was kinda clueless ... he sujested that the med levels in my ASD child may be lethal and that regular blood tests and taking the med bottles in on a weekly basis would verify that she was getting a proper medication levels.

I sujested he contact her neuroligist and phyciatrist PRONTO I also ask what he knew of the meds?? I had a list of everything and what they were for how much and what doctor was incharge.

I understand they are there for the safty of the child but the person filing the complain is not investigated at all and I am sure this was some one I trusted and it kills to have someone think this is the way ... this is a report that with the wrong investigator could ruin my life and cause so much harm to my children.

He stated that what I said was private and I said except you share it with the complain filler... right he hesitated and said yes in the case of a mandated filer but he was not sure he would beable to share with this person.

Also I was under the impression that there was a 90 day time period to file a report  oh no as this goes back to halloween and untill recently.

It sickens me to think someone that I called a friend would cause me this stress in such serrius alligations.

MAY GOD LOOK OVER HER AND SHOW HER A DIFFERANT WAY

So I hope that my DD doctors will clear this up and the report can rot in CPS drawers for the next 4 years.

I kills to not be able to trust anyone :( ALONE is the only safe thing

Sorry I just have had such a draining day 2 hours and he didn't seem to understand the meds are filled for the month and no more. WHY is that so hard to understand.

THANK YOU GUYS SOOO much I am greatfull to have found this board.

 

If I were you, I would try to get documentation from the doctors explaining the meds what they are for and how much is prescribed and how often just to have on hand. The CPS worker may not have time, initiative or intelligence to clear everything up the way you would like. If you have your own info from the doctor, the worker would have to prove it wrong as opposed to you having to prove that the care and medication you provide your children is appropriate. Warm thoughts...I am sure today was a tough day. I'm so sorry at how your day went. The positive thing is that the kids are there with you and at least now you know what you are up against. Unfortunately, you do not know WHO you are up against - except CPS.

You are not alone. You have US! So, when you need to vent - come here to do so. Unfortunately, people who don't have kids on the spectrum don't fully understand all the stuff we as parents go through. And it's a lot!

I'm glad you were prepared with the list of meds. That is why I wanted you to be prepared - I'm sure it made you look very organized and on top of things. NOT like a neglectful parent would be!

Big hugs to you. At least you made it through the day!

First, I am sooo sorry that you are having to go through this!! We have been in your shoes SEVERAL times and have close family members who have been there, as well. I wish I could have seen your post BEFORE CPS came to see you, but I have been off the computer for a few days and am now playing catch-up. I want you to remember 2 very important facts. You DO NOT Have to let them in your house EVER, unless they have a court order from a judge, even if they have the police with them. CPS often brings along Law Enforcement so that they appear to have more power than they have. Second: You do not have to let them see or talk to your kids without a court order. I have been told by an excellent attorney with much experience with CPS cases to always step outside, lock the door behind you (make sure you have a key in your hand or pocket!) and talk to them on the front porch. If they insist on seeing the kids (and they will, since they need to document for their records that the children are alive and weell), you go inside, leaving the CPS worker outside, and stand your child in the window and have them smile and wave. That way they have seen them and will document that they are alive, well  and happy. Another very, very important instruction that we were given was to keep it simple. Do not over-explain and provide tons of explanations for this or that. State your child's diagnosis and give them the name of their physician. Tell them that if they have further questions, they need to speak to the physician, or your attorney (even if you don't have one, because, chances are, if the investigation continues, you will!) CPS WILL use whatever you say against you. It is a fact, even if you think you are saying all the right things, they will see you as being defensive or nervous. They will find a way to turn it around, some way, some how. That is why the less you say, the better.  I realize that this advise may be coming too late for you, now, but maybe someone else will be able to benefit from it.

I am praying that things turn out positively for you. Having CPS in your life only adds to the already enormous stress of raising special needs kids.

I posted before seeing your follow-up post. I have to agree - please don't do anything like that - hiding your kids. Honestly, how would you live? You would have to hide for the rest of your lives and how would you support yourselves?

You definitely need some kind of advocate - preferably a lawyer. I'm not saying this because of how the case is going - but because of how you are reacting. You need to have some sound legal advice and not just the advice of those of us who don't actually know you or your exact circumstances. They will be able to help you not panic and not make plans to have the kids hidden. If the PCA had done that - that PCA would have been in huge trouble as well. If they interview the PCA, she now may have to tell that you had asked her to do this. This will not look good for you. Because of this - I think you need to get a lawyer and make sure that you tell that lawyer about the plan you had. Like tzoya said, this could escalate quickly into something that never should have happened. Please consult a lawyer immediately.

ETA: I also wanted to apologize if for some reason any of what I said caused you to panic and create this plan. That was not my intent - my intent was to prepare you so that you could best handle the situation. In no way would I ever want you to try to do something like that - it would be a horrible thing for everyone involved. Even if you were kind of just joking with the PCA about it - you cannot do that. This is extremely serious and the consequences of running with your kids could be very dire. Please get legal advice on this!
snoopywoman39911.3165972222

Sorry to freak you all out

 and again your informtion did make me more FREAKED out

I had called ARC and the local autism society and no one was able to advise me and when you said plan for the worst.. I have so many people therapists teachers doctor involved in my childrens care and I have been the best mom to my children and I know they would all back me up. Yet CPS had no interest it any people that have daily or even people that have known my kids for years. That I do not understand. I am asumming that after talking to the doctors that prescribe for my child and check them 2-4 xs a year this will all be over.

Yet I do not feel I can trust and be open about their care to even friends anymore, not knowing how people interpit what I say.

And as I stated to the investigator I understand CPS is some one looking out for my kids.

 

SORRY you are getting the wrong ideas from what I  said 

 

screaminge39911.3775578704Well,I'm  sorry that what I said freaked you out - but really, when you talked about your plan - it freaked ME out.

They need to investigate - I don't know why they don't want to hear from people involved in your children's care. However, perhaps they are assuming that those people would back you up and not tell about anything that was remotely not good about you?

I hope this does resolve quickly, but I would still seek legal advice, to be on the safe side. Have you tried calling PACER for advocacy issues? I have always found them to be a good resource. They are not a replacement for legal representation - but they might be able to give you some helpful hints. I believe their website is www.pacer.org.
Having been on the other side though - I would say it depends on the situation. I have never investigated a child abuse case - but have worked closely with people who do. If a person wouldn't let a worker in the house and was being very uncooperative - they would most likely go to the very TOP of priority on the worker's list. Being uncooperative raises suspicions like you wouldn't believe.

I agree with keeping answers simple because the more you talk, the more likely you are to say something that will get you in trouble. But, I think having necessary documentation and lists of things was good for screaminge to have - because it is very hard to prove neglect when you have a mom who is organized, knows all the answers to all the questions, etc. Neglect is pretty difficult to prove anyway.

In terms of interviewing a 3.5 year old child with autism - I think a lot of judges would understand a mom not wanting that to happen. But, you may encounter a judge who sees that as being uncooperative. But most judges would be very suspicious of why a mom wouldn't let a worker into the house.

I'm sorry so many of you have had bad experiences in this area. However, these people (for the most part) are not TRYING to harm your family. They are trying to help the kids. Some get over-zealous and lots don't get our kids or how our families have to operate. But most are in it for the right reasons. They see more horrible stuff than you can EVER imagine. It makes them jaded and suspicious of everyone. They have never met you and they don't know you are good people. In fact, what they have heard going in is BAD things about you, and they are already inclined to be suspicious. But, they are trying to protect the kids.

It doesn't mean you should speak completely openly in front of them - you need to be careful to protect your family. I just wanted to provide a different point of view.

yes Thank You

I even listed the support group I run and when he offered me services I was quick to mention everything I had already been doing. I asked for county centerbased respit and he said he didn't have that avalable umm... I try . It's just so hard to believe some of this information came from some one with an ASD kiddo I trusted and a PCA that claimed to be christian. Or at least thats my best guess at it :(

Having a DH who is a police officer, we would be very careful with any CPS worker. It's not that we are afraid of them. He knows far too many of them (from having to work closely with them over the years) to be afraid of them. He has rarely met one that had an agenda or motive (though, he has met them, like in any profession). But he knows how even a good situation can go very bad when twisted the wrong way. So, we would be very careful with allowing access to our children without total control (as much as possible), especially since both kids are special needs. Honestly, just having that disruption in either of our children's lives would throw them off. So, we would probably not allow a CPS worker to interview our child immediately just because that would do him harm and our job, as parents, is to do what's best for our child in all situations. We are blessed that we have an advocacy center here where a child can be interviewed for any reason (part of a crime, harmed, etc). They work with the police, CPS, and all the agencies that would need to ever have dealings with a child. They are trained to work with kids of all needs. So your child would only ever see one person, talk to one person, and then the other agencies would get what they needed from that one person.

But, our attorney would be involved (to protect our child because WE are our children's best protectors and advocates, so someone we hired would be their best legal defense), and it would be very controlled, for the safety of our child. It's not the worker that we fear. It's the system (which he has seen go very wrong) and the impact of the situation on our children that we would be concerned about.

I did understand I could not allow them in but in the interest of getting this over I choose to and I had no intention of leting him interview my ASD child she was present in a RID play therapy atthe time and was popping ing and out of the room and was able to be prompted to say hi and the little one did come in and wave.

I did question him about he's experance with autism- of course he has a newly dx relitive asbergers. I do think it is a good thing that he stated he knows my social worker - I encouraged him to speach with her- yet he only thought my birth to 3 was on the case um....

 

I do worry about the report floating around for years ... I plan to call the doc I have referred him to today

screaminge39911.3753703704I don't understand...you plan to hide your kids?  I'm not a lawyer, but I think that will go against you and may even be criminal.  If you are so fearful of CPS at this point, PLEASE consult a lawyer.  Call Legal Aid if you think you might qualify.  If there are charge brought against you, each if your children will likely get a Guardian Ad Litem to represent their individual interests, whether or not you have hired them their own lawyer.  I seriously caution you  to not do anything rash or something that is pretty benign can escalate into something that would never have happened had you not panicked.  Get a lawyer to advise you further (each state has different laws) and call that lawyer NOW. OurfamilisHis - Very good points. I would be very reluctant to have my child interviewed as well - even though he is very verbal and usually able to communicate pretty well. But, he can be easily misinterpreted. I would want it to be very controlled as well.

I think as long as you say that because autism is a COMMUNICATION disorder that you are uncomfortable with giving them immediate access to interview your child, especially without someone trained in working with kids with autism - I would think that would at least be a good, valid reason. It would still raise suspicions, but as a parent - like you said - we need to protect our children.
snoopywoman39911.3176157407If you are concerned that they will take the kids to the point of hiding them, get legal protection now. That's a whole other issue that's deeper than just an unfounded complaint. We probably shouldn't advise you there. That's doing something that's going to be worse for you than dealing with CPS on this situation. Don't make it worse than it is, or even isn't. You don't know all the details yet. Don't do the run with the kids. That will be very bad. If this is unfounded, which you say it is, then there's no reason to go to this extreme. You just need good legal representation.Praying for your family, please update us when you can.  So glad the therapist will be there!

My dd started to hurt herself one time with a plastic fork. I was so freaked out, called my doc she wasn't in but the others wanted me to to to psyc er...big mistake...never take a child to an adult er(make sure you have someone trained in interviewing children with autism)...anyway, the only thing they said that would apply here is that she stopped herself and never broke the skin, if she had they would have been concerned. I think your dd cutting herself would be a big deal.

I hope everything works out, good luck to you.

I hope everything went well for you today.  I'll be thinking of you.Any news? I've been thinking of you all day! Yes, how did it go? I think you should report the school for the wart thing!
Hope all is well with your children and your family.

no problem beginner everyone is differant and many adults never find a med that works :(

AND NO snoopy no judgement felt from you !! You have alway been very helpful THANK YOU

I am not going anywhere ...and my kiddos are happiest at home so please do not worry. I have worked my a$$ off to get the right doctors and therapists and schools in place for my girls. I would never do something like that to them.

I have no worries the investigation will be closed within the next weeks.. I do how ever worry about distance from who ever turned information toxic . I think this affects me the most. I will be re evaluating many things in my life .. and finding the shiney side of life.

Hi, I live in Hennepin County as well and I did go
through this when my son was in first grade. Everyone
here has given you a lot of good advice, I wouldn't
worry too much they have to check out every complaint. I
have delt with them 2x's once when he was in 1st grade
and once not to long ago. It is very scary and nerve
wrecking, but relax you have some good people that will
be with you. I do belive that they do have the right to
talk to your child when your not present, but I'm not
sure about a 3 year old. I'm not even sure why they
would try, they have a place called cornerstone to
interview children about possible abuse and that's where
I would think they would want to do the interview, they
have good therepist there that do the interview. Be
really carefull what you say, because like someone else
said they can twist things around. I have a county case
worker right now that has mostly worked for cps the last
20 years and I am very carefull around him due to the
fact that myself and my Pacer advocate has made a lot of
complaints to the higher up people about the inadequate
serices they have provided me and my son. The county
would rather have your child in a home somewhere than to
pay for the support you have the right to in your home.
My son is a lot older than your child, but it's
something to think about. Do you have any advocates for
your child? Your child is old enough to use Pacer
center, and I think the Autism society would have some
as well, I would call someone right away, the therepist
and pca are great to have with you but someone who knows
the legal stuff would be extremely helpful. Also have
you tried St. Davids for PCA care? I recently started
with them and so far it's been great. You do wait longer
to get staff ( I have a lot of unuseble hours as well)
but when they do find you someone there pretty awesome.
I will have you in my prayers, you can PM me if you
want.

Beginner   - whats great is there are so many possabilities - whats great for one child might not work for anougher

In our family I have researched and this does work for her and she has NO zombie look in the morning. Just those autism stares we all see as she tunes out throughout the day :) less and less as she is making great gains.

They is most likely a 18 yr old that was firred after being late unreliable and even after private RID training ( paid for by me ) still was not able to provide the help I needed. She had met my friends and when she left she continued contact with them.. unknowingly they may have shared information and you know how the elaphant game works. But it does show me again and I will learn this time true friends are the ones that know you and believe in you as much as you believe in them.

snetting - you are not shut out you know my number and my e-mail

and your opinion of my husband is yours to keep not open to public forum not calling or returning calls for weeks is not a way to make someone feel like a friend I must not get how it works in this state

If I knew how I would love to make this whole subject closed as I was not looking for judgement

A good prescribing physician monitors a child's (or adult's) reaction to medication carefully, so any zombie-like effects get the rx rescinded quickly.  My own son has an as-needed rx of Trazadone and it seems to lift his mood but does nothing to make him sleepy.  So, you see, each med works differently in each person.

Pls don't run with your kids. THAT will get then taken away as soon as you're caught (and you WILL be caught).  I'm certain that this will all turn into absolutely nothing if you cooperate.

I am hoping that you are not feeling I am judging you - I'm just very concerned about your previous statement that you have since deleted. I'm just wanting you not to panic and do something that will make things much, much worse. Like tzoya said - if you cooperate - this will most likely turn out to be nothing. Just be careful what you say and I again, would strongly encourage getting legal representation just to be on the safe side... just trying to help, I took it so I could have 3-4 hrs sleep, was having chest
pains and needed something to knock me out quick for what little sleep I
could grab...

glad it works for her.I just wanted to add that in another post you said your child uses trazadone
to sleep. They wanted to prescribe that for my dd, I said no. I take it myself
and it does have a zombie like effect for a few hours after you wake up if
you haven't had a full 8-10 hours sleep, even then it takes 24 hrs for the
drug to leave the system.

The doctor (ped psychiatrist) said it didn't have any side effects and I said
"really, have you taken it...I have 7 years of experience taking it."...actually
just stopped taking it a few weeks ago...

Hope this helps you figure out why they may have said some of those things.As I said to you before you blocked me out of your life since you think I am the one who called.  You have nothing to worry about if none of it is true!!!  If CPS showed up at my door and said we have reports of you me doing the same things, I would not be scared at all because i would have all the back up to prove otherwise.  How do you know it wasn't a doctor or the school district that you said you always have a problem with? Even if your husband works a lot you should stand together and show that you are good parents and they have no reason to suspect otherwise.. That is what I have been trying to tell you.  But if you want to think it's me then fine.  There goes one Alli for you I guess. [QUOTE=screaminge]

Sorry to freak you all out

 and again your informtion did make me more FREAKED out

I had called ARC and the local autism society and no one was able to advise me and when you said plan for the worst.. I have so many people therapists teachers doctor involved in my childrens care and I have been the best mom to my children and I know they would all back me up. Yet CPS had no interest it any people that have daily or even people that have known my kids for years. That I do not understand. I am asumming that after talking to the doctors that prescribe for my child and check them 2-4 xs a year this will all be over.

Yet I do not feel I can trust and be open about their care to even friends anymore, not knowing how people interpit what I say.

And as I stated to the investigator I understand CPS is some one looking out for my kids.

SORRY you are getting the wrong ideas from what I  said 

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If you are even contemplating joking about running with your kids (which would be so much worse on you and the kids), seek legal help. Call around. Call attorneys. I had a friend go through some legal issues (not like this) and she sat down with a phone book and called every single attorney in the book. She found one that would take her case pro bono because he believed in her cause.

They might talk to the doctors and therapists and such. But at this point, maybe that's just jumping the gun. If they aren't going to pursue anything, do you really want them talking to everyone you know (which would be beyond embarassing if this is unfounded)? I would be happy if they kept their mouths shut unless they were serious about looking at any charges.

You need to keep yourself together. You and your husband need to present a united front, strong, and one unit. You need to know your rights. You need to make sure you are above reproach. You need more information than what you have, at this point. I pray this will all work out for the best of the kiddos. They are the ones that are truly important.

 

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