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	If you saw a child who If you saw a child who (age just-turned 3) flapped often, walked on toes the whole time, clung to mama--not wanting to interact with anyone else or leave her side--not even Dad, no interest in the other kids, threw his toys over the chair instead of playing with them, very hyper, delayed speech (some words), BUT had decent eye contact, could understnad some ex: "come get your truck!--good! Now come get another one! Good. Now come get the rest. Put one in each hand" Etc. Would you suspect autism? BonBon39873.7712847222Yes- because my ASD son the reason I was in such denial was because he had good eye contact.   I know it seems really strange, but he does.  Its a little off, but not nearly what you would think for a typical autistic kid. Also he could clean up his toys with prompting- IE. "Okay put thomas in the bucket, now the tracks, now percy."  When my son was first tested his receptive language was scored at 2 years 8 months (he was 2 years 10 months at the time.) but his expressive language scored at 9 months.   He could follow simple commands (when he wanted to.) but could not express himself well- all his speech was echolalia. Yes, I would.  And this is just based on my own personal interactions with kids in the past 8 years.  I've seen kids with speech delays that aren't ASD, I've seen hyper kids that aren't ASD.  I've seen kid with no interest in other kids that are not ASD.  However, I have personally never seen a child that flapped and toe walked constantly that wasn't on the spectrum.  And to see that coupled with the other stuff screams spectrum to me.  My son never did either (flapped or toe walked) and I actually had never seen those traits before until I started getting involved in the autism community.  Absolutely...you could be describing my dd! She has very good eye contact, especially with me and other family members that she is used to being around, and her dx is "Classic" Autism.I would say yes.  Maisy has always had great eye contact but so many other asd traits are present.hi, My daughter is pretty much the same. She has some eye-contact. She follows instructions as well. However the thing that made the doctor worried was toewalking and hands flapping. Apparently it's a very strong symptom. There is a test. On top of the topics there is For Newbies. Other there there are tests for autism. It's a 1st link in the set of tests. It's a really good test. You might want to try it. /Marta I would have to say yes. My ds had pretty good eye contact in the earlier years, but had many of the other symptoms. It was difficult to get doctors to listen to me about my concerns of autism because of the good eye contact! I wish they would educate themselves. Anyway, around age four, he began to increasingly look from the corner of his eyes, rather than straight-on. I don't know how common it is for that particular symptom to present later, but it happened with him. Finally, the pedi. took me seriously about the autism, and sent him to a neuropsych. Yes, and considering the instrucutions given,  I would suspect she has a diagonosis, too. thanks, all. This was at a family BD party. i had met the family before, but only when the boy was a baby. His parents seem very aware that he is too 'clingy' and alot of work! Linda, the instructions were given by me! Ha! Too much therapy with my girl!     My son has great eye contact, but has just recently also started the looking out of the corner.  He also follows instructions very well, flaps non-stop and toe walks constantly.  He too has great receptive language but terrible expressive.  He was dx with mod-severe classic autism, but I was told he was on the high functioning end because of the receptive language and his memory / intelligence levels are so high.  This child sounds a ton like my son and yes, I would definitely be telling myself, "ahh..yet another one.." [QUOTE=BonBon] thanks, all. This was at a family BD party. i had met the family before, but only when the boy was a baby. His parents seem very aware that he is too 'clingy' and alot of work! Linda, the instructions were given by me! Ha! Too much therapy with my girl! [/QUOTE] AHA!  I heard therapy training in there, I knew it!  The clingy part sure sounds like my girl! Ok, now to pray about how to approach. I would have to go through my sil--they are her relatives on her hubby's side. I hate that most people think I am pointing it out due to not wanting to feel 'alone'. Sigh. Gotta do teh right thing no matter what people think. I can't imagine that any parent that has a child that flaps his/her arms on a regular basis doesn't at least wonder if something is up.  You can put on blinders for everything else...but arm flapping is a hard one to ignore.  I personally just thought my son has anxiety issues, but I at least knew it was something. Right, Shandalyn. Everyone has some sense that something isn't right but what, they don't really want to know. He didn't flap too much--he flapped 2-3 times in the three hours we were togethe. he walke on his toes the WHOLE time, though. And couldn't sit still no matter how  much he (and his parents) tried. I spoke with my sil about this--guess what? He was walking on his toes because he had jumped off a high spot the day before and cut his foot badly! When she told me that, I was shocked. My mind was going crazy trying to cope with the truth that he is not autistic when ti appeared that he was. Hmmm....that just leaves the throwing toys, no interaction with other kids, clinging to his mother and some flapping. All of which woudl not mean autism. Oy, I need to quit worryign about every child I meet!
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