delayed echolalia? loud noises?For those of your have kids with delayed echolalia what kind of things do your kids say? Mine will go on and on like repeating a conversation and i dont totally understand it all the time because of his speech. If he wants something he says "there you go" like someone is giving it to him even when they arent. He also says "hi" a million times and "how are you" i ask him "how are you" he repeats "how are you" He will say "thank you your welcome" like a conversation. Then he will say the hi and how are you followed by "sit down and smarten up" which i am guessing it came from school cause i never heard that phrase until he started school. He will go on and on and it sounds like he has repeated a conversation one of the teachers had with a student or something else. If you talk to him he cant have a back and forth conversation at all he's 4 years old. He is very loud too when he talks and hyper. My other question is does your kids cover their ears in the bathroom at all? My child is so scared he wont even go in the stall and he stands by the door holding his ears which i am figuring it is sensory and the bathrooms are loud anyway. Delayed echolalia is how a lot of our kids learn to talk. My dd still exhibits it at 8 years old. When she was 3 it was mainly if you asked her a question she would just repeat what you said. If she handed me a cup and I asked, "What do want to drink milk or juice?" and she would say "milk or juice". Now it is mainly phrases from her favorite shows, which she will use in conversation whether it's relevant or not. She is very into Full House right now and will repeat this phrase "there's a car in the kitchen and bus in the bathroom" constantly. If anyone comes to our house and says hi to her that is how she responds.The good news is they often start with echolalia and then their speech becomes more spontaneous (sp). As far as loud noises. My daughter use to scream like she was being murdered when we went into a public bathroom. She cannot even use the restroom by herself. I have to go with her and cover her ears or help her with her clothes while she covers her ears. In fact, at school she will not use the bathroom she has to go to the office and use the single-stall bathroom in there. She also runs if she sees me pull out the vaccuum and will scream when I turn on the garbage disposal. Her sensitivity has gotten better. She used to watch TV at such a low volume I swore she had bionic ears. My son's largest language repetoire is delayed echolalia. He says the funniest things, like, "time to get up", or "shut the water", in a gutteral, sing song voice, usually saying it into his hand. It's cute. I'm glad to say, that he used to do it a lot more. It is a stim for my son, but I think that with age, and all his therapies, that it has helped to curve this behavior. Hi, Loving! My ds did similar things to yours when he was younger, and still sometimes, though not as often now. He has really mostly spontaneous speech at nearly 13 yo., though still immature and with what I call "quirks". He was basically nonverbal until he was nearly 4....just a few echolalic words basically. I do agree with Emma's Mom that it is how they learn to speak. Once he really got wound-up with the phrases, he began to adjust those into responses and questions that were increasingly appropriate to the situation. One thing he did for a long time though was repeating the last word or couple of words in a sentence or question, which really threw his teachers off when it was quiz time. If you asked him "Would you like Milk or Juice?", he would say "Juice", if you asked him, "Would you like juice or milk?", he would say "milk". It carried across the board...if a quiz said, "Is the cow running or eating?" he would respond with the last word, so it was a 50/50 chance he would be right. Talk about skewing test results...LOL. Anyway, he finally overcame that part as well. I never thought of the bathroom thing as being a sensory issue...he didn't screa, cover his ears, or seem particularly uncomfortable. It's interesting, though, because the way we finally got him potty trained (he was 6 or 7 I think?) was by letting him listen to music on headphones while on the potty from what in ancient days was a Sony Walkman! I know your pain! My DD didnt begin to talk until she was 4yrs. We werent able to ask her how she was and get a responce other than How are you until she was over 5y. Now when you say how are you she say "im good today" lol. Itscute but she is Always Good. I dont think she realizes there are other answers she is 6. My son did the ready set go.... All the time all you hear is ready set go. (set set goooooo) At first it was all the time and no when you are playing a game when you are going to start he say Goooo (very high pitched) he uses it when appropriate. He has very few words and doesnt echo much. He will repeat things on TV while they are on like Click take a pic. he says pic pic. but he doesnt say it afterwards. i wish I could offer more help. I do agree spontanous speech did tend to come to my daughter after she started echolalia My son really hasnt but then again he doesnt repeat much at all anyhow. ditto what everyone else says about the echolalia. That is exactly how Bstarted learning to communicate with us. As for the bathroom, he still freaks out in public bathrooms and he is almost 5. Oh how I hate doing bathroom visits in public! He does much better in smaller, one-stall restrooms. Its great when we can find the family-style restrooms. My poor ds really hates those automatic flusher toilets! The first experience he had with them was at disney when he was 3 1/2 and not even dx yet. As soon as that thing flushed (he was sitting too poor thing) he freaked out and didn't use the toilet the rest of the day!!! Now he's anxious about it and covers his ears and asks me to cover the sensor with some squares of toilet paper - you just drape them over. He can handle it a bit better. He isn't extremely sensitive to sound but gets anxious over very loud unexpected noises. He too had echolalia but usually used it appropriately. He still occassionally uses it but mostly regular language. He does love to repeat silly phrases over and over and giggle about them, he also loves to mimic my younger childs speech patterns, he thinks it's hysterical. Luckily the younger one doesn't get hurt feelings! Echolalia is a great sign since it's a natural step in language aquisition! Thank you angel for starting this post, My son is verbal but not very communicative. He would answer questions using memorised phrases (but will use it in the correct way). The things that i don't understand, is when he is just talking for talking (it is called stim no?). An exemple when he uses echolalia in context: The other day my husband asked hs what he wanted (he showed him things to eat and asked him the question) and DS responded " Y does not know what he wants he is thinking" and the sentence was from a book of calliou he just removed Calliou and put his name. Most of the time when we ask him a question (not difficult) he would use some kind of spontaneous speech. But the stimming thingy is never directed to us. He just stares (like zoning out) and just repeats parts of a conversation or lines from books ofr movies or computer games. I call that echolalia is that so? Answering your question. My son does not seem to be bothered by any kind of noise, so the toilet is not a problem for us. haha ha my mom say i use to do this My son will script entire episodes or cartoons, usually Spongebob, and walk around flapping or running while he doing it. I'm so used to it now I barely notice it. He also calls me his "sweety darling" (obviously he picked this up from somewhere). He always covers his ears when the toilet is flushed.
Scripting and delayed echolalia are all the language skills my 6 year old has, except labelling things. Sometimes, I can't understand why he can count by 2s, 10s and sorting, classifying, comparing things, yet he can't make a more than 2-word-sentence. My children didn't have flushing toilet problem until they started school. As matter of facts, my kids never had sound problems until they started school. It seems they've started very aware all the noises after they have become very anxious and fearly that happened after he started school for couple months.
I think "cognitive demand" or other stresses up the anxiety and thus the sensory symptoms. Just guessing ... but T was decreasingly asymptomatic till Kindergarten, and then, WHAM! |
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However, he is the master of delayed echolalia. He can borrow from phases from toys, tv shows to fit most situations. And he can change one word, usually the noun, in the sentence makes perfect for his own benefit. Like, I told him one time. "M (his older brother) is sick, no school." Almost every monrning, He tells me "M (his own name) is sick, no school".