have any of you had your child tested for their mercury level?
yes. For accurate testing you need to do urinary porphyrin testing which measure the amount of porphyrins in the urine, which are affect by the levels of heavy metals in the blood. I know currently you can get this test at a labratory in France, and I believe you can also get it at Great Plains Lab.
Hair testing and blood testing are not accurate ways to test for past exposure to heavy metals. Someone will probably move this post over to the Other Treatments Forum and when Little Byrd sees it she can explain better than I can why.... I usually botch it cause I don't exactly understand why they're not
http://www.autism-pdd.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21663&am p;PN=2&TPN=2
Likewise, blood testing does not show accurate levels of heavy metals because over time heavy metals will settle into tissues if children cannot excrete them out of the body and blood testing will report what is currently floating around in the blood which would be what the child has been exposed to very recently.
[QUOTE=mom of twins]little byrd...it was both porphyrin and basic urine (forgot the exact name of that test)[/QUOTE]
I was wondering if your DAN ever talked about the GPL Porphyrins in comparison w/ the Paris, France lab. Do they measure the same porphyrins?
little byrd...it was both porphyrin and basic urine (forgot the exact name of that test)I had my son tested...did blood, hair and urine through Great Plains. All came back with normal/low levels of mercury.mom of twins, was the urine test a porphyrins test or did they just measure what was excreted in the urine?
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little byrd.....my son's porphryins test measured UP, 7-CP, 6-CP, 5-CP, preCP and CP.roger on the french porphrins test, i mearly posted the links in the hope that people would go to the place having information about testing for mercury
after spending many late nights reading about this topic it is clear to me that accurate testing is very tricky business at best
i did do the porphyrins test, its easy just send pee pee to france no doctor required ! i also read a fair amount about the interpretation of this particular test
rossignol had some discussion with nataf at a dan conference then wrote some papers one is from jan 2007 and there is an update in april if i remember correctly, and there is the nataf paper and video somewhere (he is the guy in france that made the test popular by adding some new twist to test for mercury)my take is that this test is still a little new and interpretation is not that straightforward
also check out the great plains site where they discuss the test
http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/Porphyrin_gpllabcorp_vs _auguste_philippe%20_2_.pdf
i did have to ask the labbio folks to send some interpretation of the results, since it was not included in the first response
they are very prompt and i had a follow up question or two and they were confident about interpretation
anyhow i decided to do hair test as well, andy is the only one who made any sense out of testing for metals and more importantly chelation for me.
have a nice holiday everone !
My thing is society is just toxic all the way wround. We are headed for a 1 world society anyhow. I'm thinking about having my son tested, because I recently learned that he has been playing for a long time with a toy that was listed by Forbes as one of the most toxic toys of the year due to high mercury (Little Tikes bath letters & numbers). Can this test be ordered by a regular ped, or do you need to see a DAN doctor? Is there another way to order the test? Thanks.Airedale,Lets give a lil respect to the man please :
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Hi dsophie, the test 45girls is referring to is not a provoked urine test, nor does it measure the amount of mercury in the urine. What it measure is the amount of porphyrins excreted by the kidneys into the urine, and those are directly related to the body burden of heavy metals a person has. Different porphyrins reflect different metals....lead, mercury, aluminum, etc.
BTW, I agree with you, Andy Cutler is the Man. My youngest is unable to handle DMSA suppositories so we are planning on chelating with ALA by his 72 hour schedule. We are also currently chelating our oldest with the Cutler method also, but are still only on DMSA...haven't added in the ALA yet.
There is controversey about the metals thing to the science community they say Asd is genetic