Pottying concern...how do I handle this? | Autism PDD

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I'm laughing here because my kids learned to stand up first, from watching daddy, and then they didn't understand about sitting down to poop. (Picture a 3 year old standing on a stool, back to the potty, trying to poop standing up.)

Another random thought is make it a game. Put cheerios in the toilet and play "sink the boat." Use hand over hand to show him how to hold his penis and aim.

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Oh my goodness. My son did the same thing. We finally got him to sit down to poop.

I was also going to suggest the cherrio game.

I've tried the cheerios...they went in after them lol. I wonder if plastic boats would work instead or something that's not a food that they actually eat lol. Maybe brussel sprouts or beans. Do dry beans float? Time to go experiment lol...good thing my mom is already in bed or I'd have alot of explaining to do.Nope...dry beans don't float

Good luck!

Can you get a toileting video?My son would pee sitting down for a couple of years, he ignored his dads efforts to show him how to go standing up. It got the job done though so I didn't worry too much- he goes to an autism specific school so wasn't teased for it. He loved to recite the video and act out "will I sit down or stand up like dad?" I think borrowing your sisters sons is a good idea too. Good luck. ( It was an Australian video from the Childrens hospital- maybe you could ring the closest childrens hospital and ask if they have acontinence clinic and access a video that way?) Liz

You might want to create a somewhat graphic social story!

I also don't think it's out of line to send your son into the bathroom with your sister's kids. I send the kids in with my husband (to his utter horror) and they learned pretty quickly. A bunch of different medical sites I've found say "boys will start to stand to urinate when they see other boys doing it."

I've just spent 10 minutes googling to try and find you a good image but striking out here. I did find this interesting product "Peter Potty" for (yikes!)

http://www.babyuniverse.com/pro/baby/83502/PeterPotty.html

OK, that was just a bizarre googling session. Never realized there are so many people out potty training their cats LOL.

If you want, I can try and take some pictures of my son peeing standing up and send them to you. PM me if that would help.

Another random thought is make it a game. Put cheerios in the toilet and play "sink the boat." Use hand over hand to show him how to hold his penis and aim.

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It doesn't hurt to get someone to model, but modelling didn't seem to encourage potty readiness at our house, and my son didn't need a model to learn standing up. He first learned sitting down, facing the tank, and then after a couple of weeks easily transitioned to standing.

The transition might have been helped by sitting backwards facing the tank, and it might have helped that we were both motivated because it's a lot easier to not have remove or drop the pants quite so far.

Good luck with everything.

both my boys peed sitting down for awhile. this may offend some people but i let them pee in the grass a few times and they learned to do it standing. Just like any learning process though its just a matter of time.

LOL Mary!

What about some kind of wood chip or something, like in a garden...I bet those float...and probably don't look too appetizing, lol.

WHY would you want to teach him to pee standing up????

Seriously, we are trying to get my NT son to SIT DOWN. Otherwise he hoses the seat ... and never cleans up. YYYYYYYYYYYYYYECH! The rest of us get SO aggravated.

That's the thing - you want them to be standing by kindergarten. I would also recommend having someone show him how to use the "trapdoor" on his underwear. I am worried that ds will get made fun of because he pulls his underwear down to pee. He absolutely refuses to do anything else. He thinks it's gross because inevitably some pee gets on his underwear even if he "shakes it off". This is a bone of contention between my dh and I as I have BEGGED him to work with him on this. I contend that this is one issue I simply don't have the body parts to SHOW him how to do this. Dh insists that ds just does not want to do this and he's not going to force him. HELLO!!???!!! How have I gotten him to learn any other skill - do you think he just meekly complied?

It's good you're starting to work on it and I think having your sister's kids work with him is totally appropriate. In my opinion, this is really a task left to the men - because quite frankly, I just can't do it!

Snoopywoman,

Just a note on the "trapdoor" - both my kids unbutton their pants, pull down the zipper and pull down their underwear. I don't think it occurred to either dh or I to show them about the trapdoor yet. There are a ton of 6 year olds in and out of our house, all peeing with the bathroom door often most of the time, I haven't noticed anyone using the trapdoor yet.

Not that I don't think it's a good idea to teach him, I just think your worries about ds getting made fun of might be a bit premature as I don't think most 6 year olds have mastered that yet (or even know about it)!

Well, my dear friend who has a 7 year old and a 9 year old told me about this issue. This was when we lived in the same town and she told me that most of the kindergarteners were doing this and all the 1st graders but her son (the now 9 year old who has AS) were as well.

But, ds has come up with a solution to this all on his own - he goes into a stall and shuts the door! We have told him that other kids use the trapdoor and they will think it strange that he doesn't use it as well. He also insists on wiping with toilet paper (this comes from me

This is probably something we will try to work on over Christmas break and then next summer - that is, if I can convince dh to help!

snoopywoman39342.2924305556My 6 year old has taken the initiative to try his trap door a few times, and it takes him a long time. When the underwear is small, the trapdoor is small, too. It may be simply impractical for the littlest kids to use. Maybe some brands are easier than others.

You may want to look for "tinkle targets" these are sheets of flushable paper with pictures on them ( construction or transportation ) that the boys can aim at....this might be better than the plastic boats you mentioned earlier ( you could get plumbing trouble with the boats)...

http://www.pottytrainingconcepts.com/Tinkle-Targets-Cons-z.h tml

Um, Bug is still sitting. He has been trained for over a year - but he still sits.

He CAN stand and use a urinal - but he is more comfortable sitting.

One of my goals before Kindergarten (less than a year away!

) is to get him standing to pee!

DH said he would model.

I think getting your Nephews to model is the perfect solution!!!

Good Luck! (Congrats on having him trained - that is really the important thing!).

shenom -- thanks for that link. I added it to my potty resources list (if anyone wants to see it, here's the link: http://www.autism-pdd.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16098&am p;PN=1&TPN=1)

Lol Linda. Brendon hoses the seat while sitting down too. Right now we're trying to get him to go in the potty at school like he does at home. The bathroom with all of the stalls in it was throwing him off. After this morning, my son is the only kid who's allowed to go to the bathroom in the teacher's lounge lol. They think that might help because it's a "regular" bathroom instad of alot of stalls and urinals to deal with and get overstimulated by. My sister's boys are going to start visiting more on the weekends and the oldest has said he'd try to show them what to do. Kevin is 11 and likes the boys.

My son actually learned how to pee standing up in the shower. For the longest time he wanted to sit down, then one day I had him in the shower and encouraged him to try and pee. He did it and thought it was pretty fun. I gave him all sorts of kudos for it, then the next time he went to go potty I said, "why don't you stand up like you did in the shower?" He did, and that was the end of it. It also helped that everyday at school the teachers took all the boys to the bathroom at the same time and he watched them standing up (as well as watching daddy). So, he did get a lot of positive modeling before he actually decided to do this himself.

Another you might consider is creating some visual cards that you place right above the toilet in the bathroom. If you go to the following website, they have step-by-step cards that you can print out and put on a strip. This might help reinforce the concept.

http://www.do2learn.com/picturecards/printcards/selfhelp_toi leting.htm

So, I would tackle it from several angles; modeling from nephew, visual cue cards, reward for standing up, etc. Hopefully, one of these will do the trick.

Now if I can just get my son not to pull his pants and underwear all the way down to his ankles when he pees

I'm a single mom. I'm very proud of oldest son as he is using the potty 80% of the time now. The 20% he's having accidents is because of communication issues. My dillemma is this...I'm a single mom lol. My kids go to the potty sitting down and that's it. How do I go about teaching them to pee standing up? Their dad is out of the question on this...he's seen the boys twice in the last year. I've thought about asking my sister if I can borrow her two sons for some "therapy sessions" in the bathroom. Do you think I should ask her? I really think that if they had the proper modeling that they would catch on quickly. Well Jacob would as soon as he's tall enough to stand in front of the potty. I really don't know what to do here. Is leaving it alone and letting them pee sitting down an option? Does anyone elses boy only pee sitting down?
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