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You can not tell if someone has  autism from a scan

all it can do is pick up problem areas for epilepsy and such

An important purpose of a comprehensive health evaluations for children with suspected autism is to identify possible associated medical conditions that are seen more commonly in children with autism than in the general population. These associated medical conditions include a variety of neurological problems (such as seizure disorders), genetic syndromes (such as Fragile X syndrome, a specific genetic disorder that is sometimes associated with the clinical picture of autism) and metabolic disorders.  provides a list of medical conditions and syndromes that are more common in children with autism than in the general population.

 

these can be seen on an mri scan they can only rule these out untill autism is all thats left

Cytomegalovirus infection

Duchenne muscular dystrophy

Encephalitis

Fragile X syndrome

Haemophilus influenzae meningitis

 

 

Seizures

Some of the health conditions associated with autism may benefit from early identification and appropriate treatment. For example, seizure disorders, hypothyroidism and some metabolic disorders are important to diagnose and treat as early as possible. In other cases, there may be no specific treatment for a condition, but identifying the condition may still be beneficial. For example, for some genetic conditions associated with autism (such as Fragile X syndrome), the primary benefit of early identification may be to provide appropriate genetic counseling to the parents.

specific methods for assessing hearing problems, seizures and Fragile X syndrome, which are three of the more common associated health conditions seen in children with autism.

 

 

Common physical, behavioural and developmental features of fragile-X syndrome

Physical features
Behavioural Features
Developmental Features
Broad forehead

Elongated face

Large, prominent ears

Strabismus

High arched palate

Malocclusion of teeth

Hand calluses (due to self-injury)

Dermatoglyphics:
 

Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder

Short attention span

Impulsivity

Enuresis, encopresis

Autistic-like features:

  • Gaze aversion (especially to strangers)
  • Social anxiety & shyness
  • Hand-flapping and hand biting
  • Sensory defensiveness (aversion to loud noise, touch, strong smells or eye contact)
  • Poor adaptation to changes in routine

 

Psychiatric disorders
Increased incidence of familial bipolar affective disorders

  • Perseverative mumbling and stereotypic behaviours mask psychosis
  • Psychosis in association with epileptic seizures
  • Mood instability with aggression and depression (particularly in adolescence)
  • Premutation females show increased incidence of schizotypal features and depression

Intellectual disabilities:

  • 80% males
  • 50% females
  • Mild to moderate (children)
  • Moderate to severe (adults)
  • Gradual decline in IQ as they grow older but adaptive functioning can be improved
  • Specific cognitive profiles; difficulties in sequential processing, short-term memory deficits and weakness in arithmetic.

Fine and gross motor delay

Problems with co-ordination

Speech abnormalities:

  • Delayed and distorted speech and language (2 years for words, 3 years for short sentences)
  • Tachyphemia
  • Tachylalia
  • Perseveration and delayed echolalia
  • Cluttering of speech

Hello all -

 

Had an appointment with neurologist today for my 3 year old boy.  He did not dx him, said he does have some signs of being on the asd but is always hesitant the first visit.

He ordered an MRI, EKG, and test for fragile x and lead

Have you all gone through this??? Is the MRI to rule out anything else beside autism?

We are probably going to go through EI in our school district and continue, speech, occupational and possibly do something called the play project.

At our visit he was not scared of doctor at all - looked him in eye quite a bit, told him what objects he was holding up...etc.... But doctor saw some signs as well of asd. 

So, i guess we will continue on, wish i could of got more answers today but i understand his point.

Would anyone of you suggest going to see a dev ped??

thanks so much!!!!

I personally would not see a dev. ped at this point.  The neurologist sounds thorough, and EI is the most important place to go because it's through them that you get services and help for any delays your child has.

A lead test and hearing testing is recommended by the neurologist association for all children with suspected developmental delays.

My son had the MRI and EEG to rule out other things.  He also had the fragile X screening.

Good luck with everything.

 

Depending on what is available in your area...Do you have an autism center? We went through a ped. psych at an autism center to get a diagnosis and she helps guide his treatment. A neuropsych could do the same. In our area these folks are more valuable than a developmental ped. Some others have had a lot of success with developmental ped's.

We did visit a neurologist, but didn't do the MRI and EKG. He said we could if we really wanted it (he didn't really recom. it), and we decided to just do the blood work.  l

I would encourage you to follow up with the school district and get services moving. My son also does the PLAY project and it is wonderful--It's the Floortime method.


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