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Ahh - Interesting point Donny's mom!  SharonSP, You need to talk to the special ed dept. and his teacher and tell them he NEEDS AN OT eval.. I would also write a letter. My child can write but had OT help in K and I spent this summer 2 hr a day teaching her to write better. I also hired a resource teacher teacher for tutoring and the school also hired a tutor too for the summer. She got tutoring 4 days a week by 2 tutors.

 I bought those x-pose, with a 9x11 in. dry erase board that has lines on it.  It was a big hit. She loves it. I only get it out when were doing educational stuff like writing or math. I give her a reward afterwards and that is tick tack toe.
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Thank you amberwaves. I

 will talk to the ESE specialists. He has been in private OT 2 per wk for half hr each for the last 10 mths. It has helped but he needs more. I have tried helping him at home but the minute I sit him down to try, he throws a tantrum and starts hitting me so I have just stopped. He does the same to his aunt and his older sister too. I have an easel with a white board on one side and black board on the other. He does do better with a dry erase marker than a pencil. Possibly b/c it doesn't require so much pressure. His teacher has bought him the fatter and heavier training pencils and theirs not much difference but she also tried him with a dry erase marker and it was little better. WHY though?

I am getting the feeling more and more that he should be placed in another school but so want him to have a mainstream education and experience.

Interesting article. If would be interesting if parents could put "No Child Left
Behind" to the test when it comes to the education of special needs children.

Very eye opening artilce. My son was promoted from Kindergarten to First grade this year even though I felt he had not mastered the necessary skills. His Kindergarten teacher told me that she was promoting him because he will be held back in 1st and 3rd grade because he won't pass the the FCAT but speaking to the ESE teacher this week, she told me he can only be held back once in elementary school and her recommendation would be for 3rd grade as there is a lot to cover and one of the most difficult. It really breaks my heart that he's already been targeted to fail and I must learn not to take it personally.

He's only been back to school for 5 days and already he's having problems. His fine motor skills are really bad, and he can barely hold a pencil yet there is no OT in his IEP. He was upset yesterday in Music class when his teacher told him to copy something and he couldn't do it. She got mad at him and told him to do his work and he was very upset. He really hates being embarrassed and feeling inadequate. He's started to say "I can't do it, I'm doomed". Am I going to have to be a dragon slayer for the rest of my life? I told his regular teacher about it this morning and she's going to have a word with the music teacher. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks I will have two advocate groups going to school and observe him. It's really hard and I am getting more and more depressed about my son's future.

I think there are some good and relevant points in that article. However,
as a parent to a child who falls on the other side of that coin, one who will
not meet general curriculum standards even with accomodations, it
makes me apprehensive.

If they were to say that Donny needed to master the general curriculum to
pass, he wouldn't. What kind of life is that for him, if he cannot even pass
1st grade (he's going into Grade 5, but is academically VERY behind)?
Why should he miss out on that feeling of accomplishment and success
because his disability limits his academic abilities?

Donny's accomplishments aren't "fake". Certainly, his curriculum is
different from the NT kids, but it still exists. For Donny, IEP goals include
things like making friends, playing appropriately, being in class and
attending to the teacher during certain group instruction (art - although
it's adapted for him, same with some science projects, etc.). Those are
things that are VERY hard for him to do, and when he meets those goals,
he deserves to have those successes acknowledged, IMO.The article was definitely thought provoking.  Anthony is only in pre-school and I never even thought anything like this was happening.  I will definitely keep an eye out for this sort of thing.  Although, if possible, he will be attending a local parochial school and I believe they are less likely to pass him if he's not able to do the work.

I didn't get a chance to read the article when it was originally posted, but sought it out today.  Thanks for posting it.

I totally agree that this is something to watch out for, but it's sure not easy.  One problem is that you don't always get the ongoing feedback you need from the school, so you can tell if both the school and your child are making a good effort. 

Another problem is that the appropriateness of accommodations is often a judgment call.

With my son, I felt that the school was letting him slide through much of his day, with too much drawing and Lego playing.  On the other hand, I saw that he was  exhausted at the end of his school day, even with this low level of demands.  I didn't want him pushed so hard that he'd crack -- like in 2nd grade when we pushed him to do the same homework as the rest of his class, and the stress became unhealthy for him.

Anyhow, thanks for sharing the thought-provoking article.  

 

Thanks for posting the article. Very interesting. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118763976794303235.html?mod= googlenews_wsj

Tzoya,

It's good you've brought this to our attention. The information revealed in this article is important for us to know. We must guard against this kind of funny business that, I believe, occurs a lot throughout many school districts. Thanks for the warning.

This is very interesting to me.

Granted Mason is just going into 1st grade this fall, but I felt he wasn't ready to move on...I know academically he didn't reach all the criteria to move on to 1st grade.  He can only sight 8 sight words, I was told the minimum should be 20...he can't right or spell his last name from memory yet.  He is doing very well with math and numbers but fell quite behind once they introduced reading.  He definitely isn't behaviorally and emotionally ready!

I was told they were moving him on because that is what IEP's are for.  Also then he has a chance to continue his education when he is older, through the age of 21.  But honestly what good is that going to do him, if he just keeps falling further and further behind.

I am going to keep a close eye on this...maybe it is better to hold them back when they get a little older, I'm not sure.

Thanks for sharing! 

emerald_521:

I was held back in 2nd grade just for that reason. Oddly enough i was if i recall the quickest to pick up numbers, and math, but other subjects i lagged behind in (like your son).

I think if the kid is not ready, dont push them through the grade, granted hell be a little older then the others, but some need more time. The article is interesting, and i know this has been going on for a while now. Its funding, plain and simple, so after a while moving on is inevitable for failing students, they may graduate, but whats the point of having a diploma if u cant you use it. itll show in the real world very quickly. We have a big problem with education in the country.

I did not mind being held back (tho i was not told why i was in the same class for 2 years) I improved, i built on what I learned the previous year, and did fairly better. It was like having an extra year as a kid kinda. Only you know what the right thing to do is, dont let the school tell ya what they think is right.I have not read the article yet but I have struggled whether I should keep
my ds back. I have not because I think that he would still be behind in
some subjects, even further ahead in others and still stand out as odd.
The school would provide less special ed.
In the best of all possible worlds I can see the advantage and how a
school might provide for the areas he is weak in while encouraging
growth in the rest. But in my experience my district has just been to
happy letting things fall through the cracks and I fear they would only use
it as an excuse to cut services.
Okay, now I will read the article.Okay - I read it. Something else to be hypervigilant about. Still, if my ds is
falling behind I think I'd rather push for increased special ed time and if
neeed be do private testing to see where he falls on academic standards. I
don't think my ds is a slow learner - he is a different learner. Repeating a
year won't address his issues.I am not agreeing or disagreeing. Mostly I find it interesting that a newspaper like the Wall St. Journal is getting so involved with special ed. and kids' issues -- two articles today in a paper that is supposed to be mainly about the business world. Interesting.

Thanks for the insight woodsman!  It is really helpful in what I am dealing with!!

Micki--I see your point too...I asked if that was an option and they told me no...now I guess I didn't get more specific and ask if that meant, not at this time, or never...I could ask if they thought if he should continue to fall further behind if they would offer Mason more.  If more spec. ed wasn't available to you would you consider holding ds back?  Maybe that is too hard to answer.

 But at the same time I would not want a 18 year old in first grade.

the family of a girl with severe learning disabilities complains that, instead of the intense instruction she needed to master reading and math in eighth and ninth grades, teachers showered her with accommodations: a peer note-taker, a peer to read materials to her, oral exams, reduced assignments and a calculator on math tests.

At an administrative hearing, the family -- whose names are not disclosed in the court papers -- sought to force the school system to pay for her private schooling. Noting her strong A and B grades, the district successfully argued that accommodations were helping her learn. In U.S. District Court in Seattle, a judge hearing an appeal of the case disagreed last year, saying the system improperly relied on accommodations rather than instruction,

This is what we're dealing with, with our dd starting grade 4 all accomodations and modifications and no pertinent instruction.

[QUOTE=amberwaves]  But at the same time I would not want a 18 year old in first grade.
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ya, i mean if the kid becomes to old i really dont know what they do with um. I was in 9th grade, had an english class, I was 15, this kid was 19!!! I was in collage at that age. He was not dumb, just did not care. He ended up dropping out, cases like that should be dealt with differently, sepreatly, they should send someone like that to another place, for a GED er something.
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