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If we stay out to late on errands, ds will say "song" and lead me to the CD play to put on music, and will run around the table, like running laps, not looking at anythign, and will do this for quite a long period of time. If the music stops, he will cry. I can't figure it out...

Ds loves baths. he would stay in there all day if I let him. he is constantly grabbing my hand and leading my to the tub, so he can take a bath.

He is obsessed with paper! Drives me batty, because sometimes he gets ahold of very important documents. I buy him his own notebooks, but alot of the time he still wants mine. He is also a tissue rubber, he likes to run tissues or paper towels over his face or in his hands.

He use to try and eat lotion. I finally got him to stop that, but now he rubs it onto his head if I give him even the smallest amount on his hand. He loves to rub things into his hair. I don't get it.

Lining up objects, any objects, but mainly cars.

Won't eat certian foods, or will eat them only in a certian way. Like if I give him those pre-packaged crackers with filling, he will only eat the filling by licking it, and leaves the crackers on the plate. But he will eat crackers if I give him crackers by themselves...

 

If you can give me an answer to just one of those things, I would be very grateful, lol.

Thanks for doing this!

My ds runs back and forth and HAS to have something stick-like in his hands while doing this. He often is talking to himself, but so quietly I usually can't hear what he's saying. It sounds like he's repeating similar things over and over and then changes what he says after several times.

Do you think it's best to limit him doing this? I let him do it for a while, but if he goes on TOO long, he seems to then be in a bad mood for a while. Any thoughts?

My Ds Scrunches up his whole face.  It is usually when he is trying to pose or look "cute".  Like if we are taking a pic or he is dancing to music in from of others.

 

Thanks for answering these.  WHat a blessing it is to have your insight

My son cant live without rubbing my elbow. He usually through out the day will stop whatevr hes doing and come to me while im doing the dishes or whatevr im doing and rub vigorously usually while sucking his fingers and squeezing his eyes shut and pressing the side of his head hard on me or rocking his head side to side. Sometimes hell just run up to me and rub my elbow for a few seconds tho then run off again and continue whatevr hes doing or sometimes ask to be held while he does it. If he cant do this he has a fit screaming for my elbow till I allow him to and hes satisfied then goes on his way. He also has to do this while hes going to sleep otherwise he cant sleep. And it has to be my elbow only. Once in a great many moons hell actually rub his own and a couple times did it to our dog and my cats elbow but thats it. He can suck his fingers and rock his head vigorously against the mattress on occasion and gets upset and cry if I interrupt him.

The elbow rubbing is really annoying especially cuz sometimes he gets so into it that it hurts or Im busy doing something and dont want him to "use" me! Also if hes watching tv and laying on the couch by me hell rub my elbow with his feet or make my elbow dig into his back pretty hard sometimes or rub up against his hip bone and click them together and its disgusting!

Sorry so long. He also CONSTANTLY has his two middle fingers in his mouth ALL the time and sometimes wont use his hand to grab something because he dosnt want to remove his fingers from his mouth. Hes done this ever since he was 5 monthes old and hasnt stopped (the finger sucking). This is more than the average little kid sucking his thumb!

Also he loves lining up his fridge phonics, cars etc. and putting things that are similar with their families. Ex. triceratops together, all this peter pan dvds together, all his fish toys together, the same colored balls together and gets upset if they are mixed up. He also gets VERY excited and happy when he finds things he can put together with their "families" as he calls it. And if I change my mind about something Im going to buy at the store and ditch it near the register (i know horrible) he screams and cries because it needs to be with the rest of his family and I have to walk all the way across the store to say put the wash clothes back with the other wash clothes. He also sometimes gets upset when say I take the washclothes away from the others because I want to buy it but usually gets over that pretty quickly. I guess the latter are more of his behaviors than stims. Sorry, Im finished now! Well hey rainman, i dont have a question about so much, but rather if u do somethin similar. I know whan I was little i walked on my toes for whatever reaon, and did stuff with my hands er whatever, as I got older, i stopped and probably have not done such things in many years. Anyways, I do 1 thing, its a major thing 2, and ive been doin it since I was 3, i rock b4 i sleep. When I was little my arm would be under me when I did it, but as I got older it would fall asleep cause of the weight so i still did the rockin but kept my arm in front of me.

I did this my whole life, evry night, sometimes I would roll outa bed (when I was little only, my parents had to put rails up) I would even hit my head on the wall accidently, waking everyone up. Now my parents knew I did this, and always wondered why im sure. When I went to collage I was unable to do this for 2 years, and it took a long time to be able to sleep without it, it was auful, never will I shair a room with someone again. To this day I still do it at night, tho I would never admit it to my parents or anybody, heh.

Just wonderrin if u did somethin similar, it for me has been life long and cant sleep without it, its the only thing i do that im awair of, and do so in secrecy, if someone came over to stay the night id shut and lock the bedroom door so if they are crashed on the couch they would not walk in or hear, heh.Ive been doing alot of thinking lately and thought up this post idea


i did this once on another board and got TONS

of interesting questions to answer that really helped some people


so what iwanted to ask is there anything (behaviour stim)

that your asd child does that you have a hard time figuring out the answers to

or ask yourself t why do they do that?


id be happy to try to help give some people a perspective on some of these behaviours if i can


as i may have done/ do them myself


ask away Rainman39304.6664467593

Sarah never had stims but she toe walked:)

Is it sensory or a stim? She doesnt do it anymore but I see lots of ASD did this? Never understood why? Thanks in advance:)

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Sarah never had stims but she toe walked:)


Is it sensory or a stim? She doesnt do it anymore but I see lots of ASD did this? Never understood why? Thanks in advance:)

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happy to help

ive never toe walked because to me it looks uncomftorble

but i would say they do it because they like the sensory relief it gives their feet My son constantly puts his fingers in his ears and rubs them.  My other son rocks a lot and my older boy head bangs.  They also both love to have a massager right against their ears. I have heard that the vestibular system is located in the inner ear. [QUOTE=Kalebton] My son constantly puts his fingers in his ears and rubs them.  My other son rocks a lot and my older boy head bangs.  They also both love to have a massager right against their ears. I have heard that the vestibular system is located in the inner ear.[/QUOTE]

fingertips in ears is sensory relief i did that too when i was younger he may also like to block certain noises out

head banging always sounded to me as another form of sensory relieif

only problem is it hurts and is not really good to do

ive never headbanged personally
id bet it hurts and hope you discourage him to help him stop


he may continue because while it may hurt he may not feel certain types of pain like an NT or channel the pain differently i myself am impervious to some forms of pain

(hiiting my hand on a wall or door) the pain might not always register for me in some situations

youre right about the massager next to their ears i think the sound does soothe that vestibular system with the noise it makes.What about stimming with letters? Spelling words over and over. Is it just a comfort activity? What do you think? flip39304.6956712963My son rolls his fingers.  The only way to explain it is that he makes almost a fist with his hands and then rapidly extends each finger starting with his pinky till his index and then starts again.  This is new (last six months or so) and we can't figure it out.  We have asked him if his fingers hurt and he says no.  We just figured it was stimming.

Flip- you are right stimming with letters sounds like a comfort activity to me as well ive never done it but to a little autie i think they would find it comforting


bpmom- im familiar with this i do it too

(2 hours ago in fact)

i think hes having feelings like tightness in his fingers

(sometimes it feels like arthritis to me or just an unplesent tight sensation )

and rolling and stretching them is how hes relieving it it relives the feeling of tightness and uncomfort hes haveing

you might want to get him a toy ball to squeeze
(that may help)

i really think this may be a form of sensory/ stimming

Ok back with more sorry for the long wait busy day everyone who said thank you is certainly welcome

im suprised no other adult asders made any posts like this recently it is a good one

zayzer- i think youre little guys sniffs you because he likes the smell/ feel of your skin

he may notsmell youre morning breath either it seems that we do not always pick up to certain types of smells yet may smell things that no one else can.


moreisse - i thin k he likes the repetitive motion of the opening and closing of doors it soothes him to see the motion.


Norway mom - thank you very much i try my best dopplar effect is a funny name for it

i personally dont have sensory cravings late at night i get hungry for food but no real desire for touch .

i really do believe what you said is correct it is craving touch and deep pressure

i also personally think he likes to cuddle his wonderfull mommy sometimes late at night it may help him relax so he can sleep better

bp mom - youre welcome always happy to help a nice momma out

leanne c- LOl thank you i am like a fairy godfather thank you i do have macho wings



i think the sound of eeeeee mixed in with the touch of the object provides yet another form of sensory relief

patting is also a form of touch sensory relief i agree it is stress and boredom as well

i think its important to try to get cole to stop stimming

at home but if he cant and wont send him to his room or to a quiet place to do it if he must so he cant bother the family

good luck with that im sure it is as you said enough to drive someone crazy

you rock too


Autumn - i think the reason he is so obsessed with sleeping with you is because he sees you as like a big teddy bear

cuddly and warm and providing endless sensory relief if i were you i would be flattered quite frankly if you cuddled him alot as a baby or toddler this would explain alot as well .

this is a testament i think as to how much he loves you in some ways he sees his mommy as this big cuddle bunny fit for his sleeping needs

i think the biting is an expression of frusteration and he may like the relief it causes when he is in overload.

if i were you i would try to break him of that habit if possible we dont want im to get hurt good luck to you and him


emerald 521 - i think it is some type of relief /sensory thing he does definently try to make him stop if you can
maybe taking away toys and privlleges would help it definently does not sound very safe

dbcmom- ive never been a stimmer myself its not really something i do so im sorry i cant answer youre question on that subject about me

but as for your other question

as far as visual stims i think he puts his fingers to his eyes because he finds it comforting.


foxl and rpena you are both very welcome i got a big smile

seeing how many nice people here i helped out
Thank you Rainma!  I wish there were certain smells I couldn't pick up on either.

Hi David,   how are you this evening???

I'm wondering about the fascination with numbers.  Why numbers???

Anyone feel free to shed light on this for me.   Also My son is totally obsessed with street signs,  Everything from stop signs to No Dumping signs.  I spend most of my time here making signs for him out of construction paper and straws.  I don't mind so much its just baffling to me.

thanks

hi rainman, thank you. whan a genius idea and so kind! i think ive got alot of my sons figured out (there are pages of them) but theres a few im just not 100% on.

i think hes counting cars? so to speak. he labels everything that drives by, even if in the yard, on tv, the cars in front of him hes lining up. i know its an obsession but im wondering if there might be more to it?

hell also say the same thing over and over and over, like a sentence sometimes for hours. when he does this with emergency vehichles its cus he has an obsession with having to see two, that part i understand but not the over and over of mundane sentences or something he requested that he already got.

he runs back and forth in a straight line over and over across rooms, same path, he seldom wants to sleep. i know its vestibular, but maybe you could tell me what it might feel like for him when he does it.

this goes back and forth since 4 mos, but he will go thru spurts of wanting to lick things. and he has always had an obsession with pretending to or trying to picka scab then rush it in his mouth (he does the same with no discharge :(  ) hell even do it with other poeples scars, scabs, moles, etc.

will shake his head back and forth very fast at times while chewing (kinda reminds me of when he hand flaps) to the point he almost chokes or does.

thanks if you get around to checking this out. its so amazing that in todays world we can ask someone who might know and 30+ years ago when my mom was raising me there were no computers or internet, the library wouldnt have had an answer in the world, and the doctors didnt diagnose little girls with anything.

[QUOTE=dbcmom] Thank you rainman. I agree, I think it comforts him. He is 3, and will be 4 in October. His brothers are 13 and 20 and both NT. They both love thier little brother alot and I think they worry about him being made fun of when he is older. My 13 yr old wants to ask you some questions too if you dont mind! I think you are great for doing this!  One more question... My ds LOVES water, especially swimming pools! He acts different in the pool, too. He listens better, gives tons better eye contact and is SOOO calm. I know it has to be a sensory thing, but I want to know WHAT. I am trying to figure out what he feels in the water, how his body feels, so that maybe I can find a way to give him that feeling out of the water. Thanks again!!!![/QUOTE]



youre welcome

i dont ever mind helping out the nice moms and dads with questions i really am happy ive helped so many people out so far.


your 13 year old

can ask any questions he would like you can post them here or pm them to me your one kiddo is only a year younger then me 20

( i just turned 21 a week ago) they both sound like WONDERFULL big brothers and i know you are very proud of them


i too love water and know the description of what hes feeling here it is

he is calm because he feels the cool water of the pool it is a calming and relaxing feeling and you can lay in the pool and there is just this feeling of gentleness and coolness that soothes your skin and makes you feel all relaxed and soft and wet it is this feeling that soothes him and is why you find him so happy he likes being cool and wet.

this is a description of the sensory he is feeling

this has always been the case with me and how i perceive the water and sensations in the pool


hope i helped




also thank you mamakat italked to my mom tonight im going to be going to get my tattoo next weekend i think

how are things going with your tattoos and getting your next one ?

RAINMAN WRITES: Autumn - i think the reason he is so obsessed with sleeping with you is because....
......cuddly and warm and providing endless sensory relief if i were you i would be flattered quite frankly if you cuddled him alot as a baby or toddler this would explain alot as well .


THANKS! I actually DID co sleep with him, and used a sling, and cuddled him and held him all the time since it took me 15 years to have him! I just hope when he is 6 feet 2 and 200 pounds and 12 years old he is out of my bed!

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RAINMAN WRITES: Autumn - i think the reason he is so obsessed with sleeping with you is because..........cuddly and warm and providing endless sensory relief if i were you i would be flattered quite frankly if you cuddled him alot as a baby or toddler this would explain alot as well .


THANKS! I actually DID co sleep with him, and used a sling, and cuddled him and held him all the time since it took me 15 years to have him! I just hope when he is 6 feet 2 and 200 pounds and 12 years old he is out of my bed!

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Lol dont worry im sure by that time he will be big enough to be on his own

by the way the way you quoted me with the red text was cool

i love pretty colors/ words written in pretty colors

Well thank you again David, you are great!!!

[QUOTE=Rainman] also thank you mamakat italked to my mom tonight
im
going to be going to get my tattoo next weekend i think

how are things going with your tattoos and getting your next one ?
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Ha ha --before anyone thinks I'm covered in tattoos or anything--I
think I'll let them know it's just ONE. It's pretty small, and it has to
go.

Yeah, I just don't have the TIME to put that in my schedule....But it has to
be done soon. I'm going to get a new one over the space where it was
"erased" because I think it will look better than that weird "faded tatto?
scar? look"

Rainman. BE SURE YOU GET A SMALL ONE TO START. MAKE SURE IT'S
SOMETHING YOU WILL STILL WANT ON YOUR BODY WHEN YOU'RE 70!
It hurts a bit to get it, but I hear it HURTS more to take 'em off. What are
you going to get? Do Tell! Thanks, Rainman! you're the best!Thank you rainman. I agree, I think it comforts him. He is 3, and will be 4 in October. His brothers are 13 and 20 and both NT. They both love thier little brother alot and I think they worry about him being made fun of when he is older. My 13 yr old wants to ask you some questions too if you dont mind! I think you are great for doing this!  One more question... My ds LOVES water, especially swimming pools! He acts different in the pool, too. He listens better, gives tons better eye contact and is SOOO calm. I know it has to be a sensory thing, but I want to know WHAT. I am trying to figure out what he feels in the water, how his body feels, so that maybe I can find a way to give him that feeling out of the water. Thanks again!!!!heh, this has turned into a very interesting thread. Ok, i dont know how many can relate to this one, eather parents or kids.

I enjoyed playing computer games in my teen years, particularly games where u obtain resources, build, or make armys, conqure or develope the land, and be able to maintain it, allowing it to grow and prosper.

Anyways, Sim City 2000 (back in the day) was most appealing, and I got good at it at a young age. But, other friends of mine, who were not so good, seemed to enjoy making an astheticly pleasing small city, I made vast cities, with (as i spent many hours doing this almost daily after school) a vast amount of rosources, or money, capital whatever.

Every city was different from my friends, but i made many over the years, and everyone was exactly the same, all the land was bulldozed flat, a river dividing east and west, every road was parallell and perfect, i made commercial, residental and industrial grids, power grids, perfect efficent infrastructure. In short, everything was perfect, their was no fun places in my city, it was nothing but a place for ppl to live on 1 side of the city, drive to the other for their indusry/manufacturing jobs and on the south side (both east and west) would be the sprawling commerical district. My city's had perfecttion in eveything structure wise. My ppl were highly educated, and industrious, but said their was no fun in the city, nothing to do, everything was pollutted.

Ohhh man, when I think about that game years back i had soooo much fun doing these things, its such a good game.

Ok, sorry for the longness, but did u enjoy such games where u could bring structure, order, organization and seem to get a much better outcome then peers who tried??? Of course it depends on your idea of better outcome, my city was over crowded, polluted, heartless place ) But everyone liked my roads and cheap healthcare

I feel i woulda made a hell of a mayor, heh, or maby i woulda been the mayor from hell????

Rainman you are awesome for helping all us parents out. We try and try to put ourselves in our kids shoes but will never truly know what its like, so hearing things from you really puts things in place for us.

Trinity really seems to have this connection with animals, we have dogs a pig chickens...she seems truly happy with them, she is very gentle too. Animals have always been drawn to her. She seems happier with animals than people sometimes. I guess this isnt really a question but wanted your opnion about it.

Also-my hubby does tattoos, and he has quite a few very large ones(he has well over 50 hrs in 2 alone) as well as I have 5 small to med ones if you have any ?s about anything feel free to ask...


Military mom- alot of what you described i thought about and i wasnt able to answer all of them as ive never done them but there was one that stood out that sounded familiar that i knew i could

he likes to run around with the music on because its a stimulating activity the noise mixed in with the motion creates a very relieiving "Rush" for him if you will kind of like a racecar driver he has so much fun during this rush that when he stops it can be hard to transition from motion to stillness.

thats why he gets upset he wants the music to keep going so he can keep running the stimulation does not work without the noise it can be noise and movement

but without the movement and the noise working together it fails to be as releving for him.

which leads to upsetment my advice to you my freind is leave the music on



woodsman / Dave nice seeing you again buddy i cant really recall doing that before bed myself   


im glad it helps you though i would always be insistent on having my stuffed animals in bed with me though when i was little without them i couldent sleep this used to drive mom nuts especially on nights she had to wash them with the rest of the laundry.


karoyls girl Hi youre welcome thank you for asking my opinion i always like to help teachers out

my bosses son has aspergers and i serve as an advocate at his iep meetings

i think the pictures are a great idea also do alot of hands on fun stuff

pictures help me too i work as a janitor on a crew of special needs adults and young adults and sometimes m y supervisor will drawe a map on a piece of paper of where she wants me to mop since i am a visual learner and rely on pictures in my head for alot of things.

use rewards also when they stim try to get them to stop by giving them sensory objects to relieve thier stress i have found stimming is usually caused by stress for me

small toys and sensory items (therapy balls soft things) might help

please feel free to pm me if theres anything else i can help you with.


Snoopy woman - limit him doing it when hes in front of other people or in public but when hes by himself its ok
( running back and forth with stick like object)


i personally talk to myself compulsivly when no ones around and have 2 sided conversations my moms heard me do it and thinks im nuts

the issue is they cant keep the thoughts in their heads they need to hear what they are thinking out loud in order to process it i do this at 21 as much as i did it at 4 but am carefull of where i do it

its nothing to be concerned about just a different thought processing system thats all


Fath is hope - thank you it is a blessing for me to be able to help out wonderfull people like you and all of the parents /teachers and advocates on this board

the reason for the scrunching of the face is it is a form of sensory relief i do this myself sometimes when i get weird sensations in the areas above my eyebrows that usually helps it stop

i will agree he is cute hope i was able to help


143 hayden - the rubbing is because he likes the feel of your skin or clothing he does not really do it to be annoying its a form of relief for him

i guess he likes the feeling of being close to and cuddiling his mommy



he keeps the fingers on his mouth because he also seems to enjoy sucking on them and the sensation of having objects in his mouth

i also used to do something like that but grew out it


he also is big into orginization and making sure the right things go in the right places

lining up is very common in autistic childeren i used to do that when i was younger with my toys and action figures.

he also seems to want you to buy all of the merchandise or atleast put it back in the right place if you do not intend to purchase





what a great thread!!   thank You rainman.

My 3 year old throws everything he gets his hands on,  even large heavy objects he will try to pick up and throw.   None of this is done in rage,  usually with the look of intent and content.   Although he was very happy when he threw my crystal candlesticks and "smashed them to bits" as he calls it.    What do you think?

lol your too funny RainmanHi people im back

i slept ok i was up until like 2am watching tv only problem with me staying up late though is sometimes i get bored

happy to answer more questions


beginner- i think that talking and pacing is a dtress reliver for her ( ive found alot of stims to be stress relievers in my life)

she may also get sadf because she likes doing it and it helps her settle down and it may be a little hard for her not being able to do something that brings her such happiness. hope i helped

trains r us- i think the chewing is stim related as far as the yelling you are right he needs to keep his voice down

he may have some hearing issues i think where he cant hear the other person and might speak up so he can be heard better

also he may like the loud sound of his voice those are my theories.


rpena- rolling in the blanket is very interesting i think its sensory related he likes the pressure of the blanket it helps him to de stress and the pressure is relieving to him

thank you for your interesting question i may have done that once or twice myself

ive got to go out for a few hours but ill be sure to answer the other ones before the day is done keep them coming






I should start by saying my son is 8 and on the severe end of the spectrum.

1.  He MUST sleep with me, no matter how many times I try to put him back in his bed, he comes to find me. I have tried my pillow, blanket, clothing, etc., but he must have ME. 8 years every night!

2.  He bites himself very hard when mad, angry, frustrated, sad, redirected, all 'negatives'.

THANKS RAINMAN!

By the way the 'real' rainman, kim peek, reminds me a LOT of my son - same EXACT stimming, same EXACT gutteral noises !

 

Thanks for doing this!!  You've given lots a great advice and support so far.

Here's my question--I just posted about this a few days ago and got some good answers, but thought I would get your take on this.

My son has been gagging himself lately...he usually tries to use toys and sticks them in his mouth so far down until he gags.  When I take away the toys he then uses his fingers.  I don't think it has anything to do with a sore throat or something being stuck in his throat...he seems to enjoy this.

Is this a sensory thing or a stim...how can I get him to stop...at first I tried really strongly telling him no...I can get him to stop by redirecting him, but it seems that he goes back to it pretty quickly even with the redirection.  I tried ignoring it, but then he just does it over and over and over!  I just tried gum with him over the last few days, bcuz I thought if it was some sort of oral stimulation he was looking for that might help...well all he does is swallow it.  Any ideas?

Thanks again for doing this!!

Do stims make you feel happy, or calm you when stressed..maybe both? I am trying to find a way to describe why my 3 yr old stims to his brothers. Also, why do you think he visual stims alot? He puts his fingers infront oif his eyes.very close, ALOT! Thanks!I just wanted to tell you thanks for the response, great advice/support!

Wow -- this is a GREAT thread, and thanks for starting it, David!

I think I could answer -- most -- of the questions, myself, which is rather telling ...

Rainman - Thanks so much! He actually limits himself for the most part and only does this in the privacy of his own home or goes off by himself if we are at someone else's house.

BTW, I talk to myself a lot more than I used to. I didn't realize I was talking to myself at the grocery store one day until some older gentleman pointed it out to me. I responded that I was so used to having my kids with me and running a non-stop conversation that I forgot I was alone for a second!

Thanks again - you are awesome!

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what a great thread!!   thank You rainman.


My 3 year old throws everything he gets his hands on,  even large heavy objects he will try to pick up and throw.   None of this is done in rage,  usually with the look of intent and content.   Although he was very happy when he threw my crystal candlesticks and "smashed them to bits" as he calls it.    What do you think?

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your welcome

i think he likes the motion of throwing and seeing objects fly then he repeats the motion because it feels good

just get him some toys to throw though

its not good to be breaking mommys stuff im sure that he would enjoy some toys that were ment for thowing

(balls basket ball stuff like that)


and thank you snoopywoman i am awesome and you are too Rainman39304.8289583333Well, here's one: J goes through 2 different alternating phases these: intense
nail bititng or obsessive nose picking. I know all kids do this, but I tell
you it's a stim for sure---I like to joke that he's training for the olympic
nose-picking team.

help!143 hayden - thank you i try to be as funny as possible

your lil guy is cute thats a nice picture of him it is always nice to help out parents and do something nice for them and their kids

i know me and nick (stickboy) and woodsman always have alot of helpfull things to contribute and we really feel at home here as well


Mamakat - dont worry helps here tell him that those are no nos and he shouldent do them it is a stim you are right about that

try discoraging him and telling him its not healthy or sanitary and get back to me on how that goes

im goping to sleep now since its bed time but ill be back to answer more tommorow

Thank you for doing this. I hope you slept well.

My dd talks nonstop and paces at the same time (about 8 hours a day). When I ask her to stop she gets very sad.

Is this a stim? Why does she get so sad?

 

Hi Rainman, still around?

My son will put anything in his mouth, he used to chew on shirt collars and sleeves but thank God that's over now. He likes to crunch on raw noodles, sand etc. He likes really strong flavoured food... you can see he has oral sensitivites. What I would like to know si why he talks in a very loud voice most of the time or why he screams (all day long sometimes) for no apparent reason? Is it all tied? Is screaming a stim? Sorry if it sounds dumb. I would almost do anything for him to not scream, my ears are still ringing from the last one.

And I forgot to say that he talks all day long too.

Mary

trains_R_us39304.9054976852

My son will roll up in his blanket including his head, what's the reason? Is this a stim too?

 

I don't know if you can answer this but I have wondered why my son sniff's me? No one else but me. Not objects or soap or shampoo or anything else. Just me.  Even if I have ummm morning breath it does not bother him. 

I also wondered what he gets out of stimming with his fingers up to his eyes. He seems to enjoy this alot.

Hi Rainman.

My 2-1/2 yr old son is obsessed with opening and closing doors, real ones and doors on toy houses, toy refrigerators etc.  Thanks for any insight you can offer on this repetitive behavior.

It seems like so many of these questions are sensory based, and you did a great job pinpointing the Doppler Effect of running past the music -- I would never have thought of that in a million years.

My question is also sensory.  My 9 year old son seems to be sensory-seeking even at night.  I believe it is behind his night-wakings, when he leaves his bed and seeks me out -- he seems to be craving touch and/or deep-pressure.  Do you have sensory-cravings at night?

Thank you so much!!!  I had been wondering about it but didn't feel it was a big enough problem to bother the doctor with.  I have some stress balls around, I'll give them a try and see how he likes it.

David, you are a fairy godfather but with macho wings!  Thank you!

Cole will pick up a small object (he likes soft squishy balls, but a plastic bottle cap or wooden block will do), place it up to his mouth or chin, and pat it with both hands.  Sometimes he says, "eeee-eeee-eeee". He will pat his hands together sometimes without an object.

He seems to do this when he is happily daydreaming and not stressed out.  He walks around the house first thing, happy as he can be singing and talking to himself, then will launch into eee-eee-eee and the patting, seemingly as he deepens into his daydream.

If his little brother takes Cole's patting toy away and won't give it back, Cole will clap his hands together hard in the same chin area and make the eee-ee-eee loud and gutteral.  You can tell he is POed.

So I know stress will bring it on, but maybe boredom too?

We try to say, "not EEE-EE-EEE, silly - its A E I O U, A E I O U,...." and I kind of sing the vowels to make it a happy redirection. He loves songs and music.  We even have his 4 year old brother doing the redirection if I'm not in the room. I feel like when you try to stop swearing and wear a rubber band around your arm as a constant reminder, it helps.  So I'm using the whole family to help break this.  But maybe we are wrong to try stopping it?

Should we let him stim at home?  I feel like that's a bad idea because it just encourages the habit.  Its not a socially acceptable thing to do.  I will let him just pat his hands, but do not abide the EEE-EEE-EEE.  Sometimes we yell at him to stop!  It will drive you crazy to listen to that, even if you don't have sensory issues!

Many thanks!!!!  You rock.

heh thankx man, ill tell ya, and im sure young guys like us hear this from others (usually parents, concerned older friends) that later in life you may regret having that tatoo or other modification. I find generally speaking its true, later in life ppl often regret getting some crazy tatoo or weird peircing. A tribal armband rocks, has no real meaning, and so im sure you will enjoy it for life. Some of my dumber friends at the age of 18 would get a tatoo with the name of the girl they were with at that time, ill tell ya seems thats the biggest mistake one can make 99% of the time, later on in life they definatly regret that 1. Of course, later in our lives the technology will be their that can remove older tatoos off (im assuming of course) quickly, easily, painlessly, and at a relativly low cost once lasers our perfected.

I have a friend who, and im dead serious about this, when we were younger got all involved in these 'suspension conventions.' Some older guy influenced him, and he had a picture to show me, i was horrified to see him hanging from a truss, on 6 wires with a hook on the end, all 6 hooks in his back, his skin stretching and all 200lbs of him (hes heavy even in high school) were hanging their, the blood was not too bad but i sure hope he used steril intraments (unfortunatly around this time I had alot of friends who were, well... not the sharpest knives in the drawer) and I could not beleive someone would perform such body modifications, those pin wholes (they healed up well) are in his back for life. What possessed him to do such a thing is beyond me, these tattoos and strange peircings were big when I went to high school, we had alot of freaks.

Im glad all you are getting is a tribal arm band, those are not so bad, their is far worse 1 could do...

I liked the animal thing, i myself loved my birds growing up (i was rough with them when I was younger) but now im much nicer to them and they absolutly love when I come over on fridays to visit/eat dinner with my parents.

My friend has cats, and sometimes they come when I visit, theyll sit right on my lap, even the timmid ones, im over alot, hes my best friend, but he claims these cats have never done such a thing for visiters, animals must feel very confortable around me, not threatened, ive even while hiking in the adirondacks around winter time (maby i had snowshoues or boots i cant remember) i saw a like 4 or 5 deer eating hey (this abandoned barn had bails of hey in it, very old) and i was able to get pretty close to them, before they ran away, they knew I was their but obviously did not feel threatened. That was cool, maby they knew somehow that I did not hunt, and was not their to hurt them.

Thank you, fairy godfather!  Hugs from all our little kids!

hey guys :)


Autumn - thank you again for the pretty colors

they are so pretty they remind me of one of my favorite types of candy those rainbow collored skittles and mnms i usually buy those at break out of the vending machine at work

you are great too


mamakat- (((BIG HUGS)))) dont worry its a small one its just a couple of black flames on my upper right arm very small and can still be hidden under my shirt

moms was pretty strict over what i got she doesent want her baby to look like
he has too much tattoos

so it will be hideable and dont worry i wont mind it when im 70 you are one funny girl


carol c 8632- Hi im doing awesome very happy today

i think he s into numbers because some autistic people can be savants in math and are just good at math and interestied in adding up things and taking away things also i think that the shapes of certain numbers and the way they look may interest him .


believe it or not i always seemed drawn to the numbers 5 and 9 because of how they looked when i was younger

as far as the little guys fascination with street signs

i think its the shapes and colors and maybe even the writing that attracts him i sometimes remember being fascinated by stopsigns because of the shape


glad to help you out its very nice of you to do arts and crafts with him


Mbrogue - thank you i figured it would be a good idea i think out of all of the posts ive ever made on any forum this has got to be my favorite


i think counting cars is a hobby of his ( its amazing how so many little autistics here are into counting things)

i think that he may have a real interest in cars and seeing as many as he can maybe he wants that to be his job someday

the sentence part you mentioned was intriuging sometimes ill say a certain sentence to myself a few times after ive heard it on tv just to help me memorise it i think its a deal of memeorising it and the verbal use of the word helps him save it in his brain and save the information like something being saved on a computer.

the back and forth thing i think is like what i told another poster he likes the repeated motion and moving around

in that pattern makes him feel good and may even be calming to him it may be very calming for him to move like this i think thats what shes feeling calm and hyper little boys have alot of energy

i think the movement of shaking his head is calming to him as well

and youre right it is amazing the internet today

30 years ago this conversation could not be taking place do to lack of technology

all of the best to you and little hayden


zayzer - you are very welcome you and me both LOL


woodsman/ dave - thank you i try amazing this has gone 5 pages so far

my mom and aunt used to love that sim city 2000 game they would be playing it often with my younger brother
when we came to my aunts to visit

personally i think i did enjoy such games where i could bring structure, order, orginization, and chaos Just kidding

i do feel that i probably would have done better at that kind of game then most of my nt freinds who played it i will agree with you on that and it sounds like your city did very well

)aside form the pollution and heartlessness of course)

oh and dave when you run for mayor dont worry buddy you have my vote i too feel you would be an awesome mayor


pangle and pace - thank you i always like helping you guys in this way and helping you see their world its the whole reason im here

thank you for offering to answer questions about the tattoos if ihave any good ones ill have to pm you but ive got to think of them first

trinity (from what i see in your nice pictures) seems like a very beautifull and freindly little girl your story about the animals was heartwarming and cute


i would love to help you out with your question and will do so now

i think alot of autistic people are drawn to animals because sometimes it takes alot of energy to interact with people sometimes

and with an animals you dont always have t o have the eye contact or body language you do with a person you can just sit there and pet the nice dog and he can lay there and you can rub his belly it can be a very relieving break petting a dog

and the puppys fur can provide sensory relief also if you dont want to talk much when youre with a dog thats just fine because dogs dont talk .

i myself have a basset hound

and sometimes i will just cuddle her and not really say much while i lie there with her and have somewhat of a relaxing quiet time

it can be a very relieving break from all kinds of things like sensory stimulation spending time with an animal i also think that some aninals are more protective of and drawn to people with special needs and vice versa.

i think it is very nice that she is so drawn to animals and is very good for her in my opinion


i hope she has fun with her dogs ,pig ,and chickens
all of the best to you

trinity and hubby


Rainman39306.5411226852 [QUOTE=woodsman25] heh thankx man, ill tell ya, and im sure young guys like us hear this from others (usually parents, concerned older friends) that later in life you may regret having that tatoo or other modification. I find generally speaking its true, later in life ppl often regret getting some crazy tatoo or weird peircing. A tribal armband rocks, has no real meaning, and so im sure you will enjoy it for life. Some of my dumber friends at the age of 18 would get a tatoo with the name of the girl they were with at that time, ill tell ya seems thats the biggest mistake one can make 99% of the time, later on in life they definatly regret that 1. Of course, later in our lives the technology will be their that can remove older tatoos off (im assuming of course) quickly, easily, painlessly, and at a relativly low cost once lasers our perfected.

I have a friend who, and im dead serious about this, when we were younger got all involved in these 'suspension conventions.' Some older guy influenced him, and he had a picture to show me, i was horrified to see him hanging from a truss, on 6 wires with a hook on the end, all 6 hooks in his back, his skin stretching and all 200lbs of him (hes heavy even in high school) were hanging their, the blood was not too bad but i sure hope he used steril intraments (unfortunatly around this time I had alot of friends who were, well... not the sharpest knives in the drawer) and I could not beleive someone would perform such body modifications, those pin wholes (they healed up well) are in his back for life. What possessed him to do such a thing is beyond me, these tattoos and strange peircings were big when I went to high school, we had alot of freaks.

Im glad all you are getting is a tribal arm band, those are not so bad, their is far worse 1 could do...

I liked the animal thing, i myself loved my birds growing up (i was rough with them when I was younger) but now im much nicer to them and they absolutly love when I come over on fridays to visit/eat dinner with my parents.

My friend has cats, and sometimes they come when I visit, theyll sit right on my lap, even the timmid ones, im over alot, hes my best friend, but he claims these cats have never done such a thing for visiters, animals must feel very confortable around me, not threatened, ive even while hiking in the adirondacks around winter time (maby i had snowshoues or boots i cant remember) i saw a like 4 or 5 deer eating hey (this abandoned barn had bails of hey in it, very old) and i was able to get pretty close to them, before they ran away, they knew I was their but obviously did not feel threatened. That was cool, maby they knew somehow that I did not hunt, and was not their to hurt them.

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dave that is a very interesting story and a little shocking too LOL that thing with the hooks is just nutty

he was hanging ........ oh dear god

makes me glad that neither of us have any plans for that i believe you about the freaks in your school.

in high school my school had its fair share as well

i saw a dude with a purple mohawk and peircings in his eyebrows and mouth once no doubt in my mind that gentleman had some people looking at him when he went out his apperence drew alot of attention.

nice to talk too another animal lover as well


my bosses son who has aspergers i told you about

"little david" love to play with his 2 himalayan kitties he forces them to sleep with him and all kinds of crazy stuff ive been told

( one day i was over there visiting and i saw the cat trying to jump out of his arms as he took him up to his bed the one day i was visitisng him and my boss david was oblivious to the cat trying to get away and tried to put him in his closet)

at about that time i interveined and suggested to david that we play video games and saved the cat


anyways i too was worried about regretting it myself later on

which is why im getting it small and easily conceilible

this has gone into a lot of thought for like a month though and weve been looking into safe places to go to get it.


also thank you i am a fairy godfather LOl i apprecitate all of the nice hugs from the cute little auties

(Hugs to them and you too))))))))

if there is any more questions please post them ill be online until around 9:30 or 10 pm

then ill have to go to bed and get ready for work tommorow

but ill be sure to visit tommorow night as well and be sure to get all of the questions answered i canRainman39306.7423611111hmmm, im one of the few ppl in my warehouse that does not have any body modification, i feel someday ill be one of the last on Earth who never did anything, its good to have a uneqness i suppose, tho I feel definatly individual enough, sometimes perhapse too often.

As you can see I post during sparatic times, im adjusting to overtime for the rest of the week, just worked 8 long hours and now rather then sleep ill chill online. I know this does not belong on here, but ill rant anyways, i broke my car on the way to work, its pretty new too, tho the warentee expired a mounth ago. I drive 30 miles to work, and 30 miles back home, so when I hit my break peddal and heard a loud 'BANG' followed by the peddal hitting the floor (i lost stopping power) i was lucky enough to be able to pump like crazy and then yank the emergency parking break to stop so as to not slam into a semi heading towards our waerhouse.

Now there is a ?? for ya at the end of my ramble, and its, well... simple enough just in plenty of words. I drove to work like that, the front left wheel grinding, i told all the car ppl at work and they all had a different theory of what happened, tho looking at it nothing was wrong. I coulda done the safe thing and called AAA, as I payed for coverage, my other option was since their is little traffic at 4am, to drive 30 miles home with a crippled car with little stopping power.

I was critisized for my desision, called 'dumb@$$' actually by one co-worker (not exactly the most civil bunch). Because I have a serious apprehension for the unknown, im not talking about mystery of course, but rather, dealing with someone, calling a tow truck, finding a ride, all that complication, I drove the thing home, drove slow, hazards on, and used my parking break to stop (very bad for the car supposedly) but its better then hanging my foot out of the car door and dragging my shoe along the pavement in an attempt to stop, heh.

My question is, what would you have done, maby i did make another stupid desision, and beleive me my life has been full of them, I doubt most kids in my former position will screw up as much as I had (and continue to do so) but being in a similar position, as i dont expect others to draw the same concluion i did, would you have driven home to avoid all those comlicated variables as i call them??? or been safe, realizing its a good chance you could distroy your only means of transportation, and basicly survival, perhapse injuring yourself in the process trying to get home? Did I do the right thing? Was I being inconsiderate of others on the road, perhapse I was not thinking about their safety? I thought of these things during my 8 hour shift, and i drew my conclusion weighing all pro's and con's.

I am really curious to see if we would so the same thing, tho we may have a similar world veiew, we r different individuals, different life experiences, maby i did screw up??? heh, thankx!

Woodsman - Sorry to hear about your car.  Hope it isn't too expensive to fix.

Rainman -- I just wanted to add that one reason why I've enjoyed this topic is that I've gotten to know you a little better.  I'm interested in hearing more about your experiences, background, etc., whatever you feel like sharing.

Have a good week!

thank you guys


woodsman- sorry to hear about your car dude that sounds like no fun i think you handeled it the right way and dont feel bad for driving home in the car in that condition so long as no one was hurt and you made it home safely is all that matters

norway mom - thank you for your nice compliments im always happy to share with nice people
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