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My son will be three tomorrow and has his IEP tomorrow to transition out of the EI system to a preschool setting.  My older son is leaving the preschool tomorrow to start kindergarten in the fall.  So, I am very familiar with the way they work, but getting physical therapy is nearly impossible in the school.  My younger son only started walking in October and definately needs a boost.  The evaluation was in May and the PT who evaluated him told me personaly that he would qualify.  The evaluation report doesn't recommend PT though (surprise, surprise).  Basically you can't walk to get PT in this school. 

I know I can request an independant eval, but don't want him to not receive the other services OT and Speech while we await evaluation.  Are there parts on the IEP that I can agree with and not agree with so that he doesn't have a delay in starting the preschool this fall with at least some services?  Basically I need to know what  boxes to check on the IEP.  I don't want to sign off on him not getting PT, he can barely walk and needs PT! Makes me mad! Thanks so much in advance.

Kelly

Agree to everything and ask for an independent evaluation for the speech issue. Once your independent evaluation comes back, schedule another IEP meeting to discuss incorporating those recommendations into the IEP.  I find it's a bad idea to table an IEP meeting and postpone coming to an agreement on the IEP if there are other options.  We must remember that a parent can ask for as many IEP meetings per year as necessary. Of course, we don't want to harass the district, but this is different. When you get all the evaluation results, your child's program can be adjusted to take those present levels of performance into consideration.

What if the independant eval doesn't allow or recommend PT?? Can I get as many evals as needed?  The has an average of a 65% delay for gross motor. Thanks

 

You can get one evaluation at public expense per year if the school evaluated for that thing.  For example, if they come back with a speech recommendation based on their speech evaluation and you disagree with it, you can ask them to pay for one independent speech evaluation. If those evals both recommend less speech than you are happy with, you can get an independent speech evaluation at YOUR expense. BUt, frankly, I wouldn't bother.  If two reputable speech therapists recommend against more speech, your child doesn't NEED more speech.  If you STILL feel as though he does, you can get speech for him outside of school on your own nickel or thru insurance.  This holds true for ALL areas.  Schools are only required to give a child what is necessary. for that child to progress.  Nothing more.  BUt nothing less, either.  When you child is retested at the end of the year, if he hasn't made adequate progress, the school is required to give more therapy or different therapy.  Special education MUST produce results. That's what the law says.  It's supposed to be a "results-oriented process."  [QUOTE=Kalebton]

What if the independant eval doesn't allow or recommend PT?? Can I get as many evals as needed?  The has an average of a 65% delay for gross motor. Thanks

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I believe that the language in the IDEA 2004 is along the lines of:

A parent is entitled to only one independent educational evaluation at public expense each time the agency conducts an evaluation with which the parent disagrees.

Probably this can be modified by state law, but basically the number of evaluations you can do - at public expense - is limited.  If you want to pay for them, you can do more, but off hand I would guess that the SD would feel comfortable ignoring them.  They certainly are comfortable ignoring our evaluations us even when we do only one.

Incidentally the SD can go to a due process hearing to stop the IEE (although I do not know if that would be cost effective), and in my SD there is a five page list of instructions that the evaluator must follow (and qualifications for the evaluator, too) or else the SD will not pay.  After you make your request you need to get that info from the SD.

I would recommend that you go to Wrightslaw or similar and research how to do it.  There are some tricks - such as the SD will try to force you to choose from their list of folks - that are worth knowing about.

Incidentally, I do not think that the SD has to do what the independent evaluator says.  It might get down to whose expert has more degrees in the due process hearing.
From my understanding, it's all or nothing. If you ask for the independent
eval, then everything has to wait. Others will know more, we are new to it all
too. You can argue your point at the IEP meeting & see where it goes, be
sure to bring up that the PT said he would get services. Perhaps a letter
from your doc or current/previous PT recommending PT may help. It is
VERY difficult to get any therapy in the schools, especially PT. If it comes
down to you wanting services begun w/o delay, and the school not budging
on the PT issues, ask for some gross motor goals be listed on the IEP, these
can be worked on by the OT.

I know when my son started preschool they started him with OT and Speech...a few months later our neuro recommended PT also...she wrote a RX basically for PT...I took it to the school and they did the evaluation a few months after school had started.

Well unfortunately we didn't qualify through the school because they said it needed to hinder his ability at school, which I guess they felt it wasn't.

I know it doesn't sound promising about getting it, but I just wanted to let you know that they shouldn't put his other services on hold just because you ask for a PT eval too.  So I am thinking, at least in our case, that he should still receive the other therapies, even if you ask for another PT eval.

Good luck!!

My son aged out of EI and into the school district this past May - right as school was ending. 

Although I agreed with the speech evaluation (for the most part) that was done by the school, I did not agree with the OT/PT portions.  The IEP that was put in place from our ARDs ultimately had the speech portion worked out, and a minimum of OT services (including gross motor) pending the independent evaluation being completed for OT and PT.  The IEP remarks indicated that the goals established for OT/PT are temporary until the independent evals were received, and an ARD will be convened at that time to modify those goals as necessary.

By using that approach, it allowed us to have an IEP with goals in place so that therapies could move forward, but also gave the leeway needed to come back and readdress assessment after the independent evaluations were done. 

AnamCara39293.4622800926I recommend that you request for the IEP to include everything that they are willing to give at the moment and sign off on it to get/keep services going.  At the same time, you also request a new assessment for physical therapy.  One of the best ways to do this is to carefully read the PT assessment that was done.  Usually, there are a dozen different assessment tests that can be given in any area, and often only one or two in each area are actually administered.  So you tell the school that you believe your son has physical needs that were not evaluated by the PT tests that were administered, and ask for a new assessment that includes the test of your choice (preferably one that will strongly indicate educational need).

Also, keep the school answering to you about how they are meeting your son's physical and functional needs (both required by law to be met) and continue documenting any difficulty he is having with functional and physical skills.

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