I agree, she is talking about generalizing. Through my son's VB/ABA program, genrealization is worked on several times a week. I'm not as familiar with the Lovass style ABA if that is what she is referring to.
VB/ABA has done so much for my son. I think it would be wise to try it if you have the resources to do it due to the research done that shows greast progress with these programs.
Most ABA programs don't use the straight Lovaas style anymore. I would
ask the school what kind of protocol the follow for help with genrealization.
That is so wrong! I don't think she knows what ABA is. Generalization is always part of a good program. Creating opportunities for the child to figure things out come later after a love of learning has been established. I so do not like when professionals do that to parents. Sorry about the ignorance.
Concernedpa.
Earlier I posted my dilemma about not being able to find a placement for
ds in an ABA based pre-school in Brooklyn NY for September due to late
timing.
I don't know if she's just trying to do anything to get our case off her "to-
do" list, but the CPSE administrator gave me this (unfavorable) analogy
regarding ABA:
Say you want to learn how to drive. So the ABA teacher puts you in a blue
car and makes you drive down Park Ave. over and over again everyday
until you master it. But when you suddenly find yourself in a red car and
have to drive down Madison Ave., you will not be able to do it!
What do you make of that? Is there any merit to this analogy?First you use ABA to learn basic skills. You can work on generalizing these
skills later. She's full of it, IMO. ABA is a proven effective therapy. (not
knowing the details abut your son)
What alternatives is she suggesting? Anyway, if her analogy really
encapsulates ABA, why is the school full???
Good Luck to you.
She's trying to say that ABA does not teach generalization skills. Some providers may be better at this than others. It's part of the reason we chose a VB/ABA provider and not a Lovaas based provider. In our case, the VB/ABA provider seemed to have a better program.
VB/ABA is the BEST thing we have done for our son to date. I am stunned by the changes I'm seeing in my child.
WIMomOf239290.8982523148I have had two different ABA agencies. ABA and VB /ABA and both work
on generalizing skills. That is why you want a home based program to
complement your preschool placement. My son learned all of his early
skills through 1:1 ABA and he was able to use these skills in a multitude
of settings (home,school, out in the community). Every child is different
and programs are very customized. For example, my son now has an
early math program and it is not a simple math fact 1+1=2.It is done in a
variety of methods and manipulatives. I want to make sure that he will be
able to handle math when it is taught by his elementary teachers. We have
done the same for reading.
I agree with Shelly that your CPSE is very old school. My son will be
entering mainstream Kindergarten with a shadow aide next year because
he had intense 1:1 ABA for over three years. It is by far the best
intervention that I could have ever had. Do you know how many times his
EI and SD asked me to do group preschool instead of 1:1 ABA? Every year!
Do you know how many times they told me that they had a porgram just
as good? Every year! ABA is very expensive. There is a shortage of trained
therapists.
Good Luck with getting what you need for your child. Stick to your guns.
[QUOTE=brooklynmom]Say you want to learn how to drive. So the ABA teacher puts you in a blue
car and makes you drive down Park Ave. over and over again everyday
until you master it. But when you suddenly find yourself in a red car and
have to drive down Madison Ave., you will not be able to do it!
What do you make of that? Is there any merit to this analogy?[/QUOTE]
... To continue the analogy - what if the ABA teacher put you into a different colored car every day and you drove all over town? Its not a problem with ABA, only the way it is applied. Dad2Luke&Alan39292.0961921296Thank you all for your feedback.
I think the best thing for my son now is to go to preschool in the morning
(for socializing w/ peers) and supplement with ABA therapy at home in
the afternoon. I will insist on this plan with the administrator and feel
much better now that there is so much testimony from parents who've
been there to back me up
Cheers!
I totally agree with all the above posters..she is speaking "old" school ABA and it has evolved much since the original Lovaas style..we used VB/ABA too and all skills were generalized not only at home but in public as well..I think the old problems with ABA with generalizing and the use of adversives are long gone.
ABA brought our nonverbal aloof child into a very cheerful happy verbal and extremely smart little girl who has no problem generalizing her taught skills.