did any one denay second time review shots because of containing mercury. or probably cused autism on our kids. my son has to have it befor school start im so worried but the doctor keep saying no ther would be no problem. any suggestion please.
I will refuse (and have) any further shots. I actually do not think that his shots ever "caused" his ASD, but I don't think that the shots will help the disorder. So, since my son has this, I am entitling myself (for my son) to be selfish, and not get the rest. For school I have told them it is a religious preference and two schools in two different states have not given me a hassle with that.I got waivers for both my girls after our doctor told me too.
The consensus is they may not of caused autism but probably triggered it along with other environmental issues as well as genes..plus I dont trust the pharmaceutical companies to own up to any responsibility whatsoever or the government if they are a cause/trigger....call me paranoid!
Shelley - There is not a consensus that vaccines 'probably trigger' autism along with other environmental factors. There's a theory that this is the case, and the theory actually has very little scientific evidence backing it. That doesn't mean the theory is wrong, just that it's not been proven, and there's certainly no consensus that it's true, at least amonst mainstream researchers. I'm no vaccine apologist, don't get me wrong, but I can't just let very strong, blanket statements like this go (it's a character flaw) - there's enough FUD out there already, kwim?
PS - I don't think you're paranoid. I think parents of special needs children get special consideration with this stuff. We have reasons to worry, even if our worries are not always so grounded in known science. I know I certainly do - I'm as paranoid as the next parent, I just don't want to fan the flames of hysteria; there are other important avenues that need funding and research, not just this one that gets most of the media and parental attention.
We would also not want to be responsible for convincing a parent to seek treatments that may not be appropriate because they have become convinced that certain things are true. While there are certainly good alternative medical doctors out there - there are (and no one will argue with this) many, many practitioners who would take advantage of parental fear and desperation and subject their children to all manner of dubious treatments - just to make a buck.
Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, of course, and I would never directly challenge anyone's reality, but I do tend to react at the dissemination of these theories as if they are known or even generally accepted facts. I do not think that parents should be spreading this sort of propoganda without carefully and precisely qualifying our statements and I do not think that parents should be directing other parents to propoganda sights without at least providing links to a counter argument - but I'm in the VAST minority in this respect, so I suppose I should just stay off of these threads.
I should of written a "consensus" of many parents of kids with autism feel vaccines are responsible..my bad:)
It is so hard to read about so many parents experiences with vaccines and not take them to heart..Sarah got a Hep B at birth and screamed high piercing screams ALL night long~nothing I did could stop it....I will never forget it or forgive myself for letting them do that to her...did it cause her autism~?? dont know for certain but my gut tells me it was not good for her.
My mom sent me tapes on all the vaccine hearings and I didnt feel they were upfront..very vague and dodging the truth throughout the whole hearing..I felt afterwards I am just not comfortable with vaccines doing no harm. But would not want to cause hysteria and blanket statements that they do..it is a very personal decision for us and I should of made that more clear to others. I certainly would NOT go flag down pregnant moms and tell them not to vaccinate their babies..if they asked me though I would tell them to learn what they can on them first and defienetly space them out.
Public school districts are required to accept a non-vaccinated child if the proper exemption forms are submitted within the time period specified by that state for submitting vaccination records. Most private schools will follow public school admission policies as long as the proper documentation is filed, but they have more descretion as to whether or not to allow a non-vaccinated child to attend school. What usually happens is that school officials choose NOT to tell a parent that they have other options rather than vaccinating - it's up to the parent to educate themselves as to what the law in their state really is, and not what the school district's interpretation of it is.
There are three forms of exemption: medical, religious, and philisophical, or "reasons of conscience" (that's the term my state uses). Many states permit all three, some permit only medical and religious. Medical waivers must be signed off on by a doctor - which makes them extremely difficult to obtain, since most doctors will not do so. Generally, exemptions based on religious belief does not necessarily mean you have to belong to a particular organized religion, but simply that vaccination goes against your personal religious beliefs. Philosophical exemption is exactly that - that because of your personal philisophy you, as the parent, opt not to give your children vaccinations.
Every state in the United States permits the medical and religious exemptions (except WV and MS, which are medical exemption only). Many permit all three exemptions. To find out the scoop for your state, as well as to find any forms or information may be required in submitting a personalized affidavit to your school, check out your state's Department of Health and search "immunization" and "exemption". Below are a few links to help you get started:
http://www.nvic.org/state-site/state-exemptions.htm
http://www.vaclib.org/exemption.htm
http://www.unhinderedliving.com/statevaccexemp.html
Aspergers runs in my family. My aunt a hippy did not give my cousin shots and my cousin has it. I vaccinated my kids. My biological parents did not vaccinate my brother and I bec. of their glory barn belief. I got 4 childhood disease before the age of 4yrs old. Amish are walking carriers of disease. I got Whooping cough, measles, mumps etc. I lived and a lot of the other kids died bec. they did not have shots or proper medical care. I went to live with my grandmother after age 4 yrs and I had all vaccinations too. Some of those shots I didn't need bec I already had the disease as a child but still got the shots. The messed up part. My OB checked 6 yrs and 2 yrs ago to see if I'm stilled immuned and I still am.
YOW! I do not believce in TV, I mean, I KNOW it is real ...
I will look them up in wiki! Thansk for the explanation!
I don't know what you mean by 2nd time review shots. Do you mean "boosters"? You can have a titre test done to see if they have antibodies built up - and therefore don't need a booster shot. My ped was urging the chickenpox booster and I asked her about the titre. She thought that was a reasonable alternative. I actually have no intention of getting the booster shot - we recently moved and will have a new pediatrician. No extra shots for either of my kids but I do get the ones that are required. I split up the MMR for my dd however.the shot they need before they go to kindergurten. 5 years old mmr, shots. if i dont what would happen to his school. would they let him go or not?
Go to the health department, ask for an IMMUNIZATION EXEMPT form. Fill it out and you are done. It is very easy. VERY. I know more people who do NOT get shots than DO get them!
What state are you in? Depending on your laws, you can sign an exemption. Some states accept a religious exemption (for example if you are Catholic and don't believe in abortion - a lot of the shots may contain fetal tissue from abortions (or something like that - I may have it wrong). I haven't looked into it (even though I'm Catholic) because our state has a philosophical exemption.
Basically, that means I just don't believe in the shots and refuse to do them for my child.
You could have the MMR split up - but that will take months to get and administer - and it sounds like you don't have that kind of time!
Our former school district had a motto that they even wore on buttons on their shirts "No shots, no school". I HATED this - because it just simply wasn't true! But, it scares people into getting the shots for their kids!
I would check into your state regulations. Don't call the school to ask - you will probably get the run-around as well as someone telling you that regardless, you should get your child immunized...
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Here are a couple of informative sites about vaccinations.
Autumn - it depends on the state you live in. Every state has different exemptions and she needs to find out what her state's exemptions are. Some are a lot more lenient in exemptions than others but most don't publicize them AT ALL. So, no one knows about them unless they investigate it.
lili - MMR doesn't contain mercury, just to clarify, and other than anecdotal evidence, large studies have failed to find a link between MMR and autism, and the major paper that caused all the uproar in the first place ahs been largely discredited and it's author is currently being highly scrutinized in his home country. That said....
.....I probably would have protested about the shots, too - not because I believe they caused my kids autism (I don't), but just because of all the negative smoke surrounding them and all of the compelling anecdotes - I'd worry. But, their mother decided for me when she got them their boosters without me having a chance to discuss it with her! No reaction, one way or the other, FWIW. Just another data point.
If you feel strongly against getting the shots, I would do what you've been advised to do previously - but I don't want you to feel some guilt somehow that you caused this by getting the original shots, because there seems to be no good evidence (good, meaning, accepted by standard medicine) indicating MMR as a causative factor.