Vaccine Bill | Autism PDD
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Um -- influenza is the ONLY shot containing thimerosal now, right? And for some reason other preservatives do not work in that?
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Chickenpox also has it, and the ban is state by state on the others, so if your state did not ban it, they could be using drugs from before the ban that had it, or sources that do. I know coming from Arizona (not there anymore), you had to request thermisol free shots to be sure (as of 9 months ago).
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OOOH! And now CDC is recommending an ADDITIONAL shot pre-K! My Ped asked us about this last appt. ... but did not mention the thimersal!
Just a quick note about the flu shot. My son can't get it due to an egg allergy. He only got 1 at age 10 months before we knew about the allergy. He had a bad reaction (unevplained hives and GI problems that lasted a month) and while I wouldn't say he regressed, he stopped progressing for about 6 months.
So, he has gone through 2 flu seasons without the flu vaccine and has gotten sick LESS than his peers who got the shots. If you read some of the studies even by mainstream docs they have yet to prove the flu shot really helps young kids avoid the flu. I was initally worried about my young child not getting the shot and getting sick and his pediatrician assured me that the flu really is not a serious risk for healthy kids. While I can't prove the flu vaccine had anything to do with his developmental delays, both my husband and I sincerely believe it did. I would never risk giving him another one, especially one with mercury in it. And, my newborn isn't going to be getting any flu shots:)
It makes NO sense to me why they would continue to inject a known neurotoxin into babies and pregnant women. It's so sad that they would risk that just to save the pharma companies some $$ and that the pharma companies have so much influence on our government.
The year my ds got the flu shot was the year after all those infant/toddler deaths occurred. There were a LOT of them - maybe some of you remember that? It was the winter of 2003/2004. So, in 2004 - having had a new baby in 2004 who couldn't be immunized with the flu shot because she was too young, I had my ds vaccinated for it. We saw a regression in his behaviors and he developed many more autistic symptoms. It could have been a coincidence but I will never again give either of my kids a flu shot. I didn't realize it at the time - and actually did get my dd a flu shot (2 of them because that's what they require the first time you get them). Within a few months, ds' pre-school teacher wanted to have him evaluated for Asperger's. She had noticed a huge change in his behaviors as well.
He had symptoms previously (we hadn't realized it - but in hindsight I see them) but they weren't as significant as they were after the shot. So, I guess I feel the shot exacerbated what was already there. I don't really believe it was a coincidence. But, that's just my opinion!
Hello Camusa,Thanks for re-posting that message!
I was doing a search of autisticliving.com to see what Google has, and this post came up. I'm so glad you're spreading the word!
Folks, I want to add that Mr. Bush will not get the chance to veto this until October, so we have some time. I personally have notified all of the news outlets in that list, but nothing reported as of yet.
While the mainstream medical community does not yet acknowledge mercury as a root cause for autism, it is acknowledged as a neurotoxin.
I say lets put autism aside!
Are we saying that it's ok to put "just a little" neurotoxin into our babies?
While we're at it, why don't we treat colic with a shot of Jack Daniels in their juice bottle? Using the same logic, the odds of it causing a problem are slim, (because hey, we all want to play the odds with our kids, right?) and the child will feel rested the next day since the alcohol will help them to sleep.
I think we all realize this is a "no-brainer". Mercury, in all its forms, has no place inside the bodies of our children.
Somehow the EPA gets it.... http://www.epa.gov/mercury/health.htm .... but the rest of our government seems to think it's ok.
~Chris
I agree with Fred, I think that articles like this make you second guess every decision.
I have had the flu shot every year since I was in high school. It helps me tremendously especially because I have asthma. I missed the shot one time because of the shortage, and I caught the flu. It was so bad I had to go to the hospital because I could barely breath. I had developed Influenza B, Pnuemonia, and asthmatic brocnhitis. I had an extremely low oxygen count, that when I got to the hospital they were shocked I hadn't fallen unconscious. I was quarantined for 5 days. as highly contagious and critical. The year I got pregnant, I got the flu shot, only to find out a month later I was pregnant. It has crossed my mind several times, but looking back at how close to dying I was from the flu at the age of 28, never again wil I miss my shot.
As for my son, he has gotten his flu shots too, and I will have to pay more attention to the effects. I honestly didn't notice any regression, but I guess I am still new to the diagnosis. It wasn't til I found this board that I knew that autistic kids regress. I still believe in the gentic predispostioning theory, as it runs in our family.
I respect everyones theories, but I also believe in "to each his own".
Its stuff like this that makes me happy to be from canada.And i am going to pass this on to everyone i know and hope that it will help stop that from happing.
According to the EPA, one in every six women of childbearing age already
has blood levels of mercury high enough to cause neurological damage to
their unborn children due to environmental exposures alone.
The reference dose for mercury set by the EPA is 1/10th of the level that has ever been shown to cause any neurological harm. Are they saying that 1 in 6 Americal woman has 10 times the reference level of mercury in their blood? This statement needs a source, or I call BS.
edited to clarify - a source from the EPA (ie. not safeminds or generation rescue, etc.).
Um -- influenza is the ONLY shot containing thimerosal now, right? And for some reason other preservatives do not work in that?
WHAT is this clause re: mercury in infant vaccines about, then? I do not get it!
BTW: Influenza vaccine is not required by schools or public health that I know of -- it is recommended. YES, people die of influenza, too. However, actual infection in children over 2 confers superior immunity.
I would guess that this has something to do with the flu vaccine shortage from a couple of years ago, though that's just a guess. The CDC seems to indicate that it's a supply/demand problem at the moment that will be reversed in the coming years.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/thimerosal.htm
[QUOTE=fred]sorry, danyell - nothing personal intended. I just get so tired of this science by press release crap. I'm not questioning your beliefs. [/QUOTE]Fred never thought you were.. i am just so confused.. I did get my son the flu shot last year before we had a dx. now this year i am really questing if i should get it.. How does everyone else feel about the flu shot..
I tried to locate some straight journalism regarding why HHS-Labor-Education Appropriations Bill is being vetoed (not the Remove Mercury From Infant Vaccines Bill), but it's lost in the noise surrounding this one rider. Somehow, I doubt this rider is even on Bush's radar screen, so to speak. Here's some analysis not coming from autism activists as to why the bill is threatened, but I have no time to read it and I have no idea if it is accurate or fair or not - It's just a link I came across while wading through the noise:
http://www.cbpp.org/7-18-07bud.pdf
danyell - intellectually, I would say that the shot is safe. But as a parent of autistic children, I will also tell you that if you get it, you will be second guessing your decision and possibly attributing normal developmental blips to the vaccine due to confirmation bias. I've tended to skip these optional vaccines for these reasons (and, personally, I feel that my kids are healthy enough to withstand the flu should they catch it). Same reason I don't like to fly on airplanes, really. I know that they are safe, but for whatever reason, I can't get over the visceral, negative reaction I have to it. My objection with these sorts of PR articles is the fear mongering tactics. Like, we parents don't have enough to stress out about.
I wonder if the vaccines we got worsened his condition every so often. We did a delayed schedule, but that doesn't mean they don't have an indirect effect.
I really don't like that these articles scare you into a decision though. I'm not one for confrontation, and these articles always get me defensive because they do seem very confrontational in nature (being that they're from these groups with strong bias doesn't help the situation either).
I just wish someone would do a study about the indirect cases where kids already had a predisposition to being ASD (like someone in their family is), and see if they regressed after the shot.. Just to see if it just kind of pushes the kids over the edge in a sense..Of course, that won't happen anytime soon.
Unbelivable.. When are they going to wake up..
Politicians are all the same. Liars! They do what is best for those lining their pockets. That's all I'm going to say too.
Laurie
[QUOTE=foxl]Um -- influenza is the ONLY shot containing thimerosal now, right? And for some reason other preservatives do not work in that?
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Chickenpox also has it, and the ban is state by state on the others, so if your state did not ban it, they could be using drugs from before the ban that had it, or sources that do. I know coming from Arizona (not there anymore), you had to request thermisol free shots to be sure (as of 9 months ago).
Damn politicians. That's all I'm gonna say.| Date: | Jul 23, 2007 1:05 AM |
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| Subject: | Bush/Veto/Autism - Make sure it doesn't "go away" |
| Body: | Hello All, I urge you, ALL of you, report this issue to the major news outlets. Make sure this is on their radar, and they're talking about it. I have over 5000 friends. If every one of you reposts this, we have the potential to easily reach over a million people. Thank You, Chris from Autisticliving.com Major Media Contact Information: CNN: http://www.cnn.com/exchange/ireports/topics/forms/breaking.n ews.html Fox News: CALL them - 1-888-369-4762 MSNBC: Health@MSNBC.com Make sure you set the subject to "To the Health Editor" I can't find the one for politics. You can try politics@msnbc.com , I haven't received an error so far. ABCNews: http://abc.go.com/site/contactus.html?cat=World%20News%20wit h%20Charles%20Gibson CBSNews: Go to CBSNews.com and click "Contact Us" at the very bottom of the page on the blue bar. Use the drop-down, and send it to "CBS Evening News" NBCNews: See MSNBC NPR News: http://www.npr.org/about/pitch/ In case you missed the "What Bush is doing for autism..." bulletin, here it is again.... ************************************************ Story from PRNewswire.com ************************************************ Bush Set to Veto HHS-Labor-Education Appropriations Bill Due to Provision to Remove Mercury From Infant Vaccines SafeMinds and autism community call the White House declaration 'irresponsible and dangerous' WASHINGTON, July 18/PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- According to the Congressional Quarterly, the White House stated on Tuesday that President Bush would veto the HHS-Labor-Education Appropriations Bill because of the cost and "objectionable provisions" such as a measure to ban the use of childhood flu vaccines that contain thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative. Autism advocacy groups are outraged because President Bush stated in a questionnaire during his 2004 campaign: "I support the removal of Thimerosal from vaccines on the childhood national vaccine schedule. During a second term as President, I will continue to support increased funding to support a wide variety of research initiatives aimed at seeking definitive causes and/or triggers of autism. It is important to note that while there are many possible theories about causes or triggers of autism, no one material has been definitely included or excluded." But since 2005, President Bush has steadfastly refused to issue an Executive Order banning high amounts of mercury in vaccines that would protect children and pregnant women despite repeated requests from the autism community that he uphold his campaign promise. Under his current administration, mercury has been and will continue to be knowingly injected into the youngest of American citizens. The controversial mercury-containing preservative thimerosal has been linked by thousands of parents as being the cause of their children's mercury poisoning and autism. The flu vaccine which continues to be manufactured with mercury is recommended for all pregnant women, infants and children despite the fact that the Institute of Medicine in 2001 recommended against the policy of exposing these same sensitive groups to thimerosal containing vaccines. According to the EPA, one in every six women of childbearing age already has blood levels of mercury high enough to cause neurological damage to their unborn children due to environmental exposures alone. "Injecting even more mercury into the bodies of pregnant women, infants and children when it is not a necessary component of vaccines is just bad medicine," said Lyn Redwood, president of SafeMinds and parent of a mercury-injured child. "It defies logic that a flu vaccine must be disposed of as a hazardous waste if it is not used, but somehow injecting the same mercury-containing vaccine into a baby is safe." |
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