PA LEEZ OHHHHH PAAAA LEEEEZ DON'T LEAVE.
You are a loved part of this family
by the way, I really think that by the time that thread was fighting (
The clocks on here are set to pacific time, so if she is central or eastern then that is only 6 or 7.
I didn't read all the replys only your original post and my answer to it. I found nothing offensive at all about the question and thought it was a pretty legitimate, interesting question at that. Don't worry about it and don't let it drive you away.I don't think there was ever an attack on you personally Hope.
I 'hope' that you will choose to stay.
I don't think that you were personally attacked either. Make use of the posts that I have made in the past. See ya round Cam. I might float in and out of this forum but I doubt that I will post anymore. I think I need a break from it.[QUOTE=Payne's Mom]I don't think that you were personally attacked either. Make use of the posts that I have made in the past. See ya round Cam. I might float in and out of this forum but I doubt that I will post anymore. I think I need a break from it. [/QUOTE]
I PM'd ya lady. I am kind of feeling the same way though I am pretty sure there are some that would not be offended if I blew off at this point. I hope you'll hang around, but if not I PM'd you an email addy.
PS-I have meeting on and off from 9:30-3 PM today (ARRRRGH!)
Hopefully this will have gone by the wayside and the topic of autism will once again become the focus of the board. We shall see!
(PS-One of the meetings I have this morning is a training that I give to our company. Topic?!: "Diversity Awareness" I too didn't read the thread because quite frankly I haven't had time to read a thread that long and the last time I just read a first post and replied without reading the rest of the thread....Let's just say it wasn't pretty. I tend to avoid topics on politics and religion because I'm just not a debater lol. I wanted to say that I love reading your posts, and I really appreciate the montage you made of our kids. Keep your chin up.Definately stay Hope. I have felt the same way a few times here too, but like everyone said - it's bound to happen. There are a lot of us here which means a lot of viewpoints and different personalities. When I weighed the pros & cons, the pros of being here and getting great advice and having adults to interact with definately won out! [QUOTE=Faithishope]
[QUOTE=littlebopeep]Tzoya - what are you doing up at 4 AM???
The clocks on here are set to pacific time, so if she is central or eastern then that is only 6 or 7.
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You can change your clock setting with your "edit profile" link on the "settings" page.
I had to go and reread the thread as I never went back after posting my response to your 3 questions....
The 1st 5 or 6 pages are rather nice and interesting with people simply answering the qustions...Somehow the thread changed and that, of course, is not because of you! Threads of all kinds have the potential to take on a life of their own for which the original poster is not responsible.
We all, as parents, relatives, friends, teachers, therapists, and guardians of children with autism are under stressors that others cannot really understand. We come here to talk to, help, advise, support, question, learn from each other. Where else can you speak freely about whatever is on your mind. Sometimes, a poster just needs to get something out of their head. Sometimes they just need to be heard. Sometimes hugs are needed. Sometimes a dose of reality is needed. Sometimes prayers are needed...And the list goes on.
This is a wonderful group, and even with people coming and going, those in this group who choose to stay I believe always land on their feet.
I am saddened and disappointed when disagreements on these boards turn emotional or personal or inappropriate in anyway. I try to just wait things out and they often blow over. I try not to post too much if I think that I'm adding fuel to the fire.
But I wanted you to know that I appreciate you here on these boards, even though I do not post as much as I used to. You are supported and protected and loved here as has already been posted above. Clear your mind, let go of the stress and anxiety, do something special for yourself today...Breathe some fresh clean air and smile...as should we all...
I am looking forward to seeing you again...
I think you're cool. I say stick around and ignore the stuff that bothers you.Please dont leave Hope2 !!!
Good grief! We wouldn't be family if there weren't some occasional misunderstandings, right?
Please, don't anyone get bothered. To me this feels like the time Greg accidentally bopped Marcia on the nose with the football when she came to get him for dinner, and now her chances for the drill team are just ruined!
I am not tring to be trite - just to make you guys smile and let it go. Its nothing amongst friends and family.
Love, Jan
There wasn't a single "offensive" thing about your faith post. It couldn't have been more religion neutral. Even if someone were discussing a particular religion, so what? We all have that right. As long as we stick to the topic of the forum--ASD--it's in-bounds. You could say, "The sky is blue" and some people would say, "Waa, I'm so hurt by that. Stop pushing your beliefs about the sky on me!" This is the perfect example of what I was talking about when I gave my views on political correctness and censorship--people complain about ANYTHING and everything nowadays. Again, there was nothing wrong with your post and don't be hurt by the people on an internet forum whom you'll never meet or truly know in most cases. You're just as entitled to be on this board as any of us, so STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SPEAK YOUR MIND. I'm not going to go read that 90 post thread to try to figure out what this is all about, but please, don't feel bad about posting the question (I, for one, took no offense) and I wouldn't want you to leave over some tempest in a teapot kind of internet spat.Tempest in an internet teapot is a pretty accurate assessment, I think, fred.
No offense meant to anyone, I just like that turn of phrase, is all.
Seriously, hope, we all know you were NOT trying to stir the pot or anything! You clearly stated your intentions in your very first post in that thread, and I don't think you can/should be feeling (or be made to felt) responsible for what others may say in response to said post. It just happened, and things just sort of spun out a little further than it likely should have.
I wish you wouldn't leave over this...but I understand if you feel you must. I know I have bailed on boards before that made me uncomfortable, so I do understand.
I honestly think it's partly a summer-time thing. A lot of people are feeling the stress, and it sometimes bleeds over into everything, kwim?
That is awful.
I would hate to see you leave. I enjoy your posts and your pictures. Please don't go.I am sorry everyone, I shouldn't have posted this in the main page. I just don't think it is right for people to attack someone like this. I am glad you all enjoyed the video. I really like the group. I don't know, just ignore me tonight! I am letting other people get to me, and really other people on a message board don't matter unless they are nice, right? I have too much to deal with than to worry about people being offended by me especially when I had no intention of offending anyone. I didn't have any idea this board was so clique-y.
Hope2, EVERYONE here knows your post was not meant to hurt anyone.
Stay......
Love and hugs !
Your heart and intentions were pure and nothing more..so sorry it hurt your feelings..stay:) Hopefully things will calm down some..I personally feel it was not you but more of outside issues that have nothing to do with your post on faith but unfortunately you got the brunt of it
This group is the most cohesive one I have ever been on..this will pass I promise!!
Blessings:)
I didn't get a chance to look at that topic, so I don't know the background on this, but I wanted to say that I have always enjoyed your energy and enthusiasm, and I hope you'll consider staying.
Whatever you decide, you have my respect and I wish you luck.
HOpe -- This board is SO useful for many of us in discussing issues regarding our kids. ANyone who chooses to post a topic that is not directly about autism is welcome to. Of course, ANY topic ANy of us posts opens us to responses we don't like. Ignore those posts. I haven't read your thread because I knew it would get into a debate that had the potential to be hurtful. Opening up discussions of religion or politics is a classic way to bring up controversy -- almost cliche. Still, I think it's OK to do so but we all must be prepared for the inevitable fallout from these discussions. "Never discuss religion or politics in polite company" is old advice that didn't come from nothing.
As I said, I didn't read your thread. I also missed CAMUSA's thread about non-religion before he deleted it. I think you have the right to be religious and he has the right to be non-religious and the best thing it to respect both rights. I happen to be a believer, but I fully respect anyone's right to be agnostic or atheistic. To be frank, my own life-long faith has been tested the most by autism. It has survived, but there was a time I worried it wouldn't. I have been dealing with autism and all the stages my autistic son has gone through for 16 years. It has been a bumpy ride and there were times when I spit on the ground and cursed God. I felt totally punished and abandoned. A person who doesn't believe doesn't get to do that. At least those of us who believe can hate God. Those who don't have no one to hate.
Please don't leave the board. This board is for all of us to help us through the ups and downs of autism so that we can continue to help our kids. It's for those of us who believe, those of us who don't believe and those of us who believe and feel abandoned. It's for anyone who is dealing with autism. It's best to leave any hurt feelings behind and move on. Otherwise your expression of faith (whatever it was) will only have resulted in your throwing away a good source of information that will help you in your journey. It sure helps me in mine.
I hope EVERYONE stays.
We are dealing with autism as a group -- surely we can handle each others' personal differences, too!
I just love you all, and the fact that dissension CAN be brought up. And I hope all of us grow through it, too.