I would like to ask the parents with a NT child when did the toddler start saying "NO" frequently and when "MINE"/"ME".
Thank you !
my 22 month old started saying "no" kind of late, around 20 months, butAllison just hit the "mine" stage about 2 months ago (I was so proud--she has not been diagnosed with anything yet)
What specifically are you worried about and how old is your child?
Here is a list of speech/language milestones:
http://www.lpch.org/DiseaseHealthInfo/HealthLibrary/growth/a aslm.html
My dd started saying no around 18 months. "Mine" was at about 2 years. However, I do not consider her "typical" - so don't freak out! She converses at a 4 1/2 year old level (according to the dev ped) and this was before she turned 3! I had her evaluated due to some minor quirks and I wanted our very good dev ped to look at her before we moved. Although he understood my concerns (reading at a 6 1/2 year old level and not very social with her peers) - he pronounced her NT but to watch her carefully and get her into lots of social situations. She is doing very well socially now for the most part. Very interactive - although with kids who are about a year older than her or more.
Although I do think "no" is typically said before turning 2 for most NT kids... It was probably in the first 10 words both of my kids said. My ds is also extremely verbal, though....
around 2 yrs old....sometimes before....
Jake did it.
Jeremy never did it!!!
Now, of course, Jeremy tells me NO all the time!
Please be specific about "NO".
Thanks. I'm really worried.
Is this your first child? Is he around other kids a lot? My NT dd started saying "mine" apparently earlier than most girls (according to a previous poster) - probably because she has an older brother who would take things from her. She fought back! My ds didn't say "mine" much until he had a younger sister - now I think I hear about 1000 times a day!
Do you have other concerns about your son? I'm sorry I don't remember your previous posts to know...
My NT son didn't talk at all until he turned 2. No, "mommy", no, yes...no words whatsoever. Then he finally started talking. He still seemed behind some of his peers for a while, but now at 5 he speaks very well. My older son also didn't start saying "mine" until after two either. It sounds like your little guy is using language appropriately for his age.
A more important indicator might be does he gesture? Although even shaking his head yes or no may not have come yet, but does he point? Does he follow your point? Does he answer to his name when called (not 100% of the time of course, but usually).
Ann
I am very worried.
My little son seems to have a well developed language but some pieces are missing, basic ones.
He is 22 months and talking in sentences but he is not using "NO". He manages to get his needs by avoiding it or requesting what he wants. Replacement like "all done, that's all, or pushing with hand or turning head. He said "NO" when he was 16 mo but very rare. He is also refering to himself by name. Once in a while he might say "mine".
The strange thing is that he can say "Mommy, listen, bird sing" or other sentences (spontaneiously and appropriate, not echolalia or he is a master in copy and use) BUT he is not using "NO".
I am so scared. The NT kids I know had "NO" from 13-15 mo. How can a child be verbal without "NO" and how it didn't struck me until now ?!
My foster daughter began saying no at about 17 months and says it quite frequently now at 19 months. My other daughter began saying no around 20 months, I believe.
My son with pdd-nos (3 in a few days) has never said no, that I recall. None of them say mine or me yet.
Ember started saying no and mine sometime before 2 years, she just turned 2, so maybe 15- 18 months? No came before mine. she's 2 years 2 weeks and she is starting to say things like what you doing? me don't want to, things like that. She is also starting pronouns, she points at you and yells YOU! She is getting pretty talkative. While she has older brothers she really doesn't have examples to follow with language. She is actually teaching them. They still don't say mine. They just take. They do say no now though.He is not bilingual. It's just one language for him which is not english.
Well, if he is bilingual or hearing two different languages - could that maybe be contributing to delays in his language development or causing it to be a bit behind? I think speaking two languages is great - but I do know that it can cause kids to have some delays initially - which usually go away by the time they go to school.We tested him to see if he can understand the negative like:
"Is this cherry green ?" And he said "it's NOT".
So he has some sort of NOT but not a social-oposition kind of NO.
I wish I could find some clear and detailed milestones .... without having to do a SLP assesement which in my case it's very hard because my son speeks his native language. I was already told that it will be hard to asses.
my Nt...started telling me no at 15 months...but...she was ahead of the game in language...I think most start at about 2My eldest son has ASD.
I'm worried about the little one now.
He is pointing since 12 mo and he looks like reaching milestones but I see some things missing. He also was a preemie (32 w) and that made every evaluation more complicated. He had PT but he walked at 13 mo.
I am so scared ... he can even say YES sometimes. How is he managing to skip the NO ? He might shake his head NO and fuss but not the word. My point is from all the words and sentences he has the NO is a easy one, why not using it.
Set up situations for him to practice the word "no"
We would put out in front of her:
Cookies & a jar of pickles and ask her if she wanted the pickles? she would say cookies..we asked again..do you want the pickles? and then prompted her: "No!" I want the cookies. after doing this method with many things she picked it up quickly and mastered it fast
...also on "Mine" we did the same thing...her "elmo" and my "eye glasses" and we would model "these eyeglasses are mine...the elmo is yours" and then have her do it..once she got it we used did different items over and over till she mastered it too:)
This method works for nt kiddos as well as asd kids:) Good luck:)
[QUOTE=lilid]I am very worried.
My little son seems to have a well developed language but some pieces are missing, basic ones.
He is 22 months and talking in sentences but he is not using "NO". He manages to get his needs by avoiding it or requesting what he wants. Replacement like "all done, that's all, or pushing with hand or turning head. He said "NO" when he was 16 mo but very rare. He is also refering to himself by name. Once in a while he might say "mine".
The strange thing is that he can say "Mommy, listen, bird sing" or other sentences (spontaneiously and appropriate, not echolalia or he is a master in copy and use) BUT he is not using "NO".
I am so scared. The NT kids I know had "NO" from 13-15 mo. How can a child be verbal without "NO" and how it didn't struck me until now ?!
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I've personally have never seen saying "no" listed as a language milestone. It sounds to me like his language skills are developing nicely. Here is a list of what kids should be able to do at your son's age:
edited to add: I like Shelley's suggestion of modeling the language and setting up a situation where your son would need to use the word.
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http://www.kidsgrowth.com/resources/articledetail.cfm?id=120 4
it's a red flag for social development.
It's true we tried to pamper him as much possible but NO it's a word that he hears at least 10 times a day because we use it a lot.
Thanks for the link - So by 24 months, if your child never says "no" or "mine" it's a concern. You indicated he's saying "mine" on occasion which is good. I would try Shelley's suggestion and see if you can get him to start actually saying "no." He's already letting you know when he means "no" which is good. He's 22 months now, so he does have a couple of months. He does sound like he has some really nice language skills.
My oldest son is ASD, so I was watching my youngest like a hawk. He's language skills were nothing at 22 months like your son's (18 words). I understand your concern, though. When you already have one on the spectrum it makes you more alert.
I understand your concern too - you watch your 2nd so much more closely if your oldest is on the spectrum. Kind of the opposite of most parents - usually the 2nd child gets much LESS scrutiny!
Especially if you are saying "no" a lot to him - I would be concerned. Because he's not picking up on that. My son's first two-word combo (at about 22 months) was "No cord". He meant he knew he wasn't to touch a cord. I think he must have heard that about 10,000 times before that! He wasn't overly into touching cords, but for some reason I would always point things out to him and tell him we don't touch those. I did the same thing with outlets. This could have backfired on me, but it didn't - he totally stayed away from outlets and cords and even passed this on to his baby sister. If she was near a cord or outlet - he would immediately tell her, NO! We don't touch cords (outlets)! And he would yell for me as well.
And, this is from a child who is on the spectrum (but very mild). I would try what Shelley said and if you have more concerns than just this one word he isn't saying - well, it wouldn't hurt to bring it up to your pediatrician (or dev ped at your older son's next appointment)...
I think the fact that he shakes his head for no is a GOOD sign. Many ASD