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When we ask our son to do something, normally our first requests are ignored and we should push him to hopefully we get what we expect. But his ABA therapist requests are done instantly, even if he is busy with his favorite toys! I think this is about ABA and what its critics say about lack of generalization in ABA? Or maybe we should have been more persistent in our requests in order he knows he should eventually do what he is asked for?

Any comment?

Daddy

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I did the same with Kathy above..I had them teach me to get the same responses they got so beautifully and I got the screaming fits ..at first she would scream but with consistency on my behalf she did well..not as good as them because I am the mama:) Now that ABA is over I still find myself rewarding her for good answering or listening:) I still catch myself talking to her in "therapist" mode..people would think I am the most neurotic mom they have ever seen..trying to tweak myself:)

I know my son interacts with other people better than he does with us.  As far as answering immediatley and so forth.  I always have to say Daniel about 2, 3 sometimes four times before I can get a response.  I think it has to do with some sort of attention getting thing.  In other words, when he is at home or with us he is in his own little world that we have to figure out what will motivate him out of it long enough to answer us or do something with us.  When other people are involved, just their presence sometimes motivates him to interact.  "Grandma and Papa are here!"  He comes running to the door and is very engaged with them for a few minutes and will answer any question.  But, if they stay too long, he's right back to the way he is when it is just us.  When he goes to school he responds better to the teacher most of the time.  But, they stay very active and are constantly on the move.  He does still disengage at any given moment, but most of the time just the constant activity keeps him engaged.yes we used to have the same problems as well but we had the therapist
work on it with us. We have clinics every two weeks and our interactions
would be watched and advice given when needed. At the end of therapy the
last 15-20 minutes are always spent on graphing/notes/updating programs
by the therapists. During this time they have also helped us implement the
appropriate correction procedures. I think the key is consistancy. This is
what usually works with us. If I call my sons name or ask my son to do
something and he does not respond. I call his name and say " Mason, yes"
He will respond with "yes" if not I say" Mason, yes" until he responds with
"Yes". Then I ask him to do what I want him to do or ask him a question etc.
I do not have to do this as often. Now when I say his name 'Mason" he
responds with yes and then I make a request. Good LuckSame with us - whle R is very attentive to us - he iwll not do things like he wants me to do the finger play/or do hand over hand  for Twinkle Twinkle but he will do it just fine with his therapist 

even for typical kids they will do something for teachers but not for mom and dad....

both Jeremy, hfa, and jake, nt do that.....

 

Hi..

It was the same for us, especially in the beginning.  He would do what he needed to during his session, but nowhere else.  Over time, and with practice, he did generalize.

I know even my NT kids behave better for others than for me and dad, especially when they were younger.  They knew how to put on their charms .

Good luck
I think you are also right that our kids apply rules that don't generalize.
My ds has a special ed reading teacher he does well with but when his
regular classroom teacher asks him to read he refuses because 'you are
not my reading teacher'. Your kid might have to learn the rule that he has
to follow your requests.

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I know my son interacts with other people better than he does with us.  As far as answering immediatley and so forth.  I always have to say Daniel about 2, 3 sometimes four times before I can get a response.  I think it has to do with some sort of attention getting thing.  In other words, when he is at home or with us he is in his own little world that we have to figure out what will motivate him out of it long enough to answer us or do something with us. 

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Daddy, what rubyruby mentioned above is very,very true....(no pun intended, sorry ruby!). They will ALWAYS 99.99% NOT respond to your first call (especially in the early years). As ruby mentioned, repeated calling. Even when they turn to you, they won't look at you long enough to listen to you. So someone thought us this...

As you're calling out to your boy; eg: "Daniel." (No response)... "Danieeell ! [Exaggerate the sound}"... When his eyes turn to you, immediately use your 2nd & 3rd fingers to point to your own eyes, and call out again... "Daniel !! Look into my eyes!!!" [Repeat till he sees you longer than 3 seconds] then throw in your request... "Now Daniel, go wash your hand... it's dirty, etc" . Initially it looks very dictatorial, using finger gestures to the eyes, the kind that provokes road bullies.... but it works... it worked for my boy, at least... and I'm sure you can try it out in the privacy of your home first...

Audio (calling of his name) and Visual (fingers to the eyes) cues capture their attention better than single cues...

All the BEST daddy.... it will still be a long and rocky road ahead... but you're not alone...

P.S. About the figuring out part... sometimes it's good for us to "go into their world", immerse ourselves in their world of cartoon characters... play & interact at their level as the characters they relate to from TV... then slowly unravel them bit by bit...

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