Semantic Pragmatic Disorder, Anyone? | Autism PDD
Does anyone have a child that has been dx with this high form of autism?
I have read just about everything on the internet about it. Would love to connect with others who child has SPD too.
Holly
You know I can't recall what that is? Where did you read about it online? It rings a bell so I'm sure I have something on it and have read about it but I can't find the info in my binders. Would you enlighten me please?
Amber
ok, no offense intended, but i thought they weren't using that as a diagnosis anymore? I think a doc told us they used to call it that so parents with HFA kids didn't freak about autism.... Am i wrong?From what I found thru google, yes. Also they can have some autistic like tendencies but as they get older the way they score on iq tests determines whether they have that or aspergers.
Tammy
[QUOTE=tabitha]Its not listed under the autism
spectrum disorder or under the pdd disorders. The experts can't agree
on it. Aspergers is considered high functioning. You could in theory
have very mild pdd-nos and be considered high functioning. [/
B]
It seems that children who are diagnosed as having a semantic
pragmatic disorder might more accurately be described as high-
functioning autistic. Clinicians tend to give all autistic children who have
good intelligence the label Asperger syndrome, even if a child actually
has very limited speech. But there are important differences between
bright autistic children with semantic pragmatic difficulties and bright
autistic children with Asperger syndrome. Children with semantic
pragmatic difficulties have usually learnt to talk late, whereas (according
to diagnostic guidelines) children with Asperger syndrome were able to
talk in sentences by the age of three. Also children with semantic
pragmatic difficulties do better on performance IQ tests than verbal IQ
tests, whereas with children with Asperger syndrome the results tend to
be the other way round. However, if a child with semantic pragmatic
difficulties eventually becomes a fluent talker, the difference between the
labels 'high functioning autistic' and ' Asperger syndrome' becomes fairly
academic.
Semantic_pragmatic_disorder.html">http://www.brighttots.com/
Semantic_pragmatic_disorder.html
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Well, you just described my son to a T. Late talker, high performance IQ
(136), average verbal IQ (104), fluent talker now. Diagnosed as HFA with
the proviso that "He lives in an Asperger's world, but his early speech
delay technically precludes him from an Asperger's diagnosis". Once
again, my son is an "enigma", the very first "dx" I ever received for him
when he was 5. I was furious when I heard this from the school district
psychologist 6 years ago, but I have grown to appreciate that it is
probably the most accurate diagnosis he will ever have!My daughter has Semantic Pragmatic disorder. I thought it kinda went hand in hand with HFA or Aspergers.
Its not listed under the autism spectrum disorder or under the pdd disorders. The experts can't agree on it. Aspergers is considered high functioning. You could in theory have very mild pdd-nos and be considered high functioning.
It seems that children who are diagnosed as having a semantic pragmatic disorder might more accurately be described as high-functioning autistic. Clinicians tend to give all autistic children who have good intelligence the label Asperger syndrome, even if a child actually has very limited speech. But there are important differences between bright autistic children with semantic pragmatic difficulties and bright autistic children with Asperger syndrome. Children with semantic pragmatic difficulties have usually learnt to talk late, whereas (according to diagnostic guidelines) children with Asperger syndrome were able to talk in sentences by the age of three. Also children with semantic pragmatic difficulties do better on performance IQ tests than verbal IQ tests, whereas with children with Asperger syndrome the results tend to be the other way round. However, if a child with semantic pragmatic difficulties eventually becomes a fluent talker, the difference between the labels 'high functioning autistic' and ' Asperger syndrome' becomes fairly academic.
http://www.brighttots.com/Semantic_pragmatic_disorder.html
I find this very interesting, as my GS is considered VHF, but not Aspergers.
The reasons are.
He makes eye contact easily, (didn't when he was younger)
He can draw(badly), but can draw a human figure.
He has a good memory for faces and people.
He is warm and friendly, and loves to cuddle and be held.
So, even with HF kids there are many differences.
Wow this is very intesting info. Thank you for making this post Holly and thank you for the sites Tammy! I printed them and plan to look into it.
Amber
My oldest was dx with aspergers and hyperlexia, but he really doesn't fit the hyperlexia part. Yes, he's been reading very well since he was 3, but he always understood language, he never mixed his pronouns and he didn't really have echolalia much and he definately never regressed. ????
Here are two good links I found for Hyperlexia and Semantic Pragmatic Disorder. They are conisidered "similar". These are the two documents I printed out to give to my son and daughter in law as I found the most similarities with these for my grandson.
http://www.hyperlexia.org/what_is_hyperlexia.html#semprag
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