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Well...pdd-nos is part of the autism spectrum (a form of the pervasive developmental disorders). Now pdd-nos dx, from what I understand, means they seem to have many autistic signs, but maybe not all of them. Like maybe they are social to a degree, but have language delays and repetive behaviors and stims and sensory issues. It can be complicated, and that is why it takes a professional in this disorder to diagnos.

Don't trust your son's teacher. Nothing against her, but she isn't a professional. Even many dr's miss the symptoms and have told parents that they're crazy and their child is fine. Only to find out later by a center for dx'ing that the child does indeed have autism or pdd-nos etc.

Language delay does not mean a child has a disorder under the spectrum, but you do describe other behaviors that could fall under the description of it. As I've said many times, (even to my own family that thinks I am crazy) it can NEVER hurt to find out. If they say he's ok, then you don't have to wonder and worry about it and can focus on what might be the real issue to deal with. Go to the first post that says For Newbies. It has an OVERLOAD of info w/ anything you need. Tons of info, online tests to give you some idea, ways to find support in your area, you name it. Good luck, and Welcome to the board!

Amber

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Hi there and welcome!  There is some great info here and I hope it helps you.  I just want to add that if your special Ed teacher is basing the spectrum and the possibility of your child being on it on eye contact and staring into space, then he/she needs to get another job.  I have 3 kids on the spectrum and only my middle (HFA) stares and has poor eye contact, and that is rare these days.  My daughter (PDD) has great eye contact most of the time.  In fact, the only ones who ever noticed that her eye contact was not quite where it should be were me and the neurologist.  I think a trip to the neurologist would be ideal for you.  A diagnosis is good for one thing:  Knowing basically what you are dealing with so you can get the appropriate help.

Rachelle

Hi Marie,

WELCOME TO THE BOARD!!!!!

Our Son has HFA (High Functioning Autism) & has great eye contact, loves to be cuddled, loves playing with others, over acts when he gets even the least little scratch, is scared of almost everything....so he KNOWS dangers, has no problem telling us what he wants & when he wants it......He only has like 4 of the sypmtoms on that picture chart above.....but they (his docs) have STILL dx him with HFA. He's in a regular school & regular classroom. He does spin things, & loves lighted things & musical things, & DOES laugh at inappropriate times, & DOES have to stay on a daily routine. So not all children with autism EXACTLY fit all the criteria.... It's an individual thing.

Again...WELCOME!!!

God Bless you & keep you safe!

Linda...aka Tony'sMom...aka MWN64

  

Try this: http://www.childbrain.com/pddassess.htmlWelcome to the board Marie, and  hang in there! We will try to the best of our ability to help you find the answers you are searching for.  Theres a thread at the top of the first page called For Newbies to our Forums in it you will find MANY links to alot of information that might help you such as

Have a fear or wondering about autism? Here are some informative links....

and

Wondering if it could be autism? Here are links to information about some onlne tests.... The tests are not ment to diagnose but to act as a guide and to give you information to discuss with your child's Dr

Under the first one it also gived the DSM IV criteria for the different Autism Spectrum Disorders like.....  http://www.autism-biomed.org/poster.htm

http://autism.about.com/cs/whatisautism/l/blcharac.htm

Speech Issues no speech; non-speech sounds; delayed speech; echolalia (mimicing words without any understanding of meaning); pronoun confusion; frustration with lack of speech common
Interaction Issues lack of peer interaction; lack of eye contact; seemingly unaware of other people; treating people as objects; parallel play rather than interactive; lack of imaginative play
Behavioral Issues not interested in being picked up/cuddled; preoccupied by hand movement; flapping hands (especially when excited or over stimulated); spinning; balancing; tiptoe walking; aggressiveness towards others; lack of interest in "normal" toys (often preferring kitchen tools); obsessive toward patterns; repetition in behavior (performing the same act over and over again, such as rewinding one section of a movie on the VCR to watch many times); lining things up; self injury; needing to live with a routine that does not change
Sensory Issues dislike of certain sounds, textures and/or tastes; dislike of being touched; very passive or very active behavior; nervousness; unaware of various physical stimuli such as pain; covering ears at loud noises; "blanking out" in active environments; often seem to be uncomfortable in extreme temperatures
Splinter Skills drawing; musical; math; calendars; memory; computers; mechanical ability such as complex video/audio equipment
Biological Markers MRI scans sometimes abnormal; serotonin levels may be raised; bowel problems; some children afflicted with seizures; sleep disturbances (not requiring as much as other children of the same age); often unusually attractive children with large eyes

http://www.childbrain.com/pddq3.shtml

1. What is PDD or autism?
2. How is PDD or autism diagno sed?
3. The DSMV IV criteria
4. Review of the different PDDs
5. How does a typical child with autism present?
6. The PDD assessment questionnaire
7. Who should be evaluated for PDD?
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6895311/ Autism signs and symptoms

Children with autism and other autism spectrum disorders typically display a range of identifiable symptoms. By being aware of these signs, parents can help spot the disorder at an earlier age, which greatly improves a child’s overall prognosis. Click on a category to learn more about the symptoms to watch for.

COMMUNICATION

-- Delay in, or total lack of, development of spoken language
-- Difficulty initiating conversation
-- Echolalia (repeating words or phrases instead of using normal language)
-- Doesn’t respond to name
-- Doesn’t use or respond to gestures and other nonverbal cues

SOCIAL INTERACTION
-- Doesn’t point to objects or show them to others
-- Doesn’t make eye contact at appropriate times
-- Doesn’t look at other people’s faces as much
-- Doesn’t respond to facial expressions or body language
-- Doesn’t smile back at others
-- Lack of peer relationships appropriate to age level
-- Less interest in other children
-- Not motivated by praise or physical affection
-- Doesn’t clearly demonstrate sympathy or empathy

BEHAVIORS
-- Engages in highly repetitive play
-- Obsessively preoccupied with a specific interest or object
-- Lack of make-believe or imitative play
-- Dependent on routines, rituals and familiarity
-- Repetitive body movements (hand or finger flapping, eye rolling, twisting, spinning, rocking, etc.)
-- Preoccupation with parts of objects
-- Easily overstimulated by noises, crowds or lights
-- Extreme dislike of certain sounds, textures or situations
-- Doesn’t have strong response to pain
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http://www.neurologychannel.com/autism/diagnosis.shtml

Diagnosis

Diagnosis of autism is usually made by the age of 3. Early diagnosis and treatment often helps to improve outcome for patients. Diagnosis includes the following:

  • Physical examination (may include neurological examination)
  • Medical history (includes family history, birth history, and early development)
  • Medical tests (to rule out other conditions)

Physicians use various screening tools to evaluate development, communication and language skills, and interaction with others. They usually question caregivers about the child’s development (e.g., Did the child babble, point, wave, and grasp objects by 12 months of age?) and observe the child closely during office visits.

Differential Diagnosis
Conditions that cause symptoms similar to autism include the following:

Tests performed to rule out other conditions include the following:

  • Blood tests (to rule out metabolic disorders that affect amino acids and lipids in the blood)
  • Chromosomal analysis (to rule out genetic disorders)
  • Comprehensive hearing test (to rule out deafness as the cause of abnormal language development)
  • Electroencephalogram (EEG; to rule out seizure disorder)
  • Magnetic resonance imaging (MRI scan; to rule out brain disorders)

Asperger disorder is sometimes considered a variation of autism. It is more common in boys, usually develops after the age of 3, and usually does not require lifelong care. Children with Asperger have narrow interests, repetitive routines, and are at increased risk for developing depression and anxiety. Symptoms include the following:

  • Excellent rote memory (usually)
  • Excellent musical ability (often)
  • Inability to use language to communicate
  • Lack of facial expressions and emotion
  • Limited interests and an intense interest in one or two areas
  • Severely impaired social interaction
  • Undeveloped motor skills

Childhood disintegrative disorder causes marked deterioration of intellectual, social, and language skills around the age of 3 or 4. The disorder is associated with seizures and is more common in boys. Patients with the condition usually require lifelong care. Childhood disintegrative disorder causes loss of the following:

  • Bowel and bladder control
  • Language (i.e., ability to communicate and understand others)
  • Motor skills
  • Social skills (e.g., ability to play, develop peer relationships)

Rett disorder is a progressive neurological disorder that occurs only in girls. Symptoms of the disorder usually develop between 6 and 18 months of age. It is characterized by the following:

  • Abnormal gait
  • Inability to control hand movements
  • Inability to express feelings
  • Reduced brain size and weight (microcephaly)
  • Reduced muscle tone (hypotonia)
  • Seizures

Patients also may experience constipation, breathing difficulties, weakness of the extremities, and cognitive regression. There is no cure for Rett disorder, but symptoms usually can be managed with appropriate treatment.

Pervasive developmental disorder-not otherwise specified (PDD-NOS) is characterized by delayed development of social and communication skills. It usually develops between 2 and 12 years of age. Individual attention and medication to manage behavioral problems can be beneficial. Symptoms include:

  • Abnormal play behavior
  • Desire for sameness in their environment
  • Difficulty using and understanding language
  • Impaired ability to relate to people, objects, and events
  • Repetitive movement and behavior
  • Self-injury
  • Unusual mannerisms
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  • http://www.raisingdeafkids.org/special/autism/index.jsp 
    The signs of autism
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    http://www.cincinnatichildrens.org/health/info/mental/diagno se/autism.htm      Autism Symptoms
  • Atypical or lack of language development; does not talk or play with others
  • Failure to respond to certain sounds
  • May react differently to sight, sound, touch, smell, taste and/or movement
  • Play is generally not functional; can be repetitive; does not play with others
  • Can be overactive or underactive; may show aggression; tantrums may occur
  • Reliant on routines; does not like change
  • Does not follow a point or use pointing to communicate
  • Absent or minimal eye contact
  • Absence or lack of gestures; taking a person to an object; showing etc.
  • May engage in flapping hands, spinning or other repetitive behaviors
  • Can be unusually good at specific tasks (i.e. music, art, reading)

Indications for Further Evaluation

  • No babbling by 12 months
  • No gesturing (pointing, waving bye-bye, etc.) by 12 months
  • No single words by 16 months
  • No spontaneous (not just echoing) phrases by 24 months
  • Any loss of any language or social skills at any age

http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/

SPECIFIC TOPICS
How common are ASDs?
What are the symptoms of ASDs?
What conditions are included?
What causes ASDs and is there a treatment?
Is there a connection between vaccines and ASDs?
What is CDC doing about ASDs?
Can developmental screening provide early detection?

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Autism Information Center
Developmental Screening
Kids' Quest
Resources for Families
Resources for Researchers
Publications

http://www.childbrain.com/pddq3.shtml

The DSM IV criteria for the autistic disorders

The full diagnostic criteria for the pervasive developmental disorders are outlined below. As mentioned above, the diagnostic criteria for the autistic (PDD) disorders are defined by the DSM IV criteria.

  1. Childhood autism
    1. A total of six (or more) items from (1), (2), and (3), with at least two from (1), and one each from (2) and (3):

      1. Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
        1. marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction.
        2. failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
        3. a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest)
        4. lack of social or emotional reciprocity
      2. Qualitative impairments in communication as manifested by at least one of the following:
        1. delay in, or total lack of, the development of spoken language (not accompanied by an attempt to compensate through alternative modes of communication such as gesture or mime)
        2. in individuals with adequate speech, marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others
        3. stereotyped and repetitive use of language or idiosyncratic language
        4. lack of varied spontaneous make-believe play or social imitative play appropriate to developmental level
      3. Restricted, repetitive, and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least of one of the following:
        1. encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
        2. apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
        3. stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g. hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole body movements)
        4. persistent preoccupation with parts of objects
    2. Delays or abnormal functioning in at least one of the following areas, with onset prior to age 3 years: (1) social interaction, (2) language as used in social communication, or (3) symbolic or imaginative play.
    3. The disturbance is not better accounted for by Rett's disorder or childhood disintegrative disorder.

  2. Asperger's syndrome
    1. Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
      1. marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body postures, and gestures to regulate social interaction
      2. failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
      3. a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest)
      4. lack of social or emotional reciprocity

    2. Restricted, repetitive, and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, as manifested by at least of one of the following:
      1. encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
      2. apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
      3. stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g. hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole body movements)
      4. persistent preoccupation with parts of objects

    3. The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
    4. There is no clinically significant delay in language (e.g., single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years).
    5. There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood.
    6. Criteria are not met for another specific pervasive developmental disorder or schizophrenia.

  3. Rett's disorder
    1. All of the following:
      1. apparently normal prenatal and perinatal development
      2. apparently normal psychomotor development through the first five months after birth
      3. normal head circumference at birth
    2. Onset of all of the following after the period of normal development:
      1. deceleration of head growth between ages 5 and 48 months
      2. loss of previously acquired purposeful hand skills between ages 5 and 30 months with the subsequent development of stereotyped hand movements (e.g., handwringing or handwashing)
      3. loss of social engagement early in the course (although often social interaction develops later)
      4. appearance of poorly coordinated gait or trunk movements
      5. severely impaired expressive and receptive language development with severe psychomotor retardation

  4. Childhood disintegrative disorder
    1. Apparently normal development for at least the first two years after birth as manifested by the presence of age-appropriate verbal and nonverbal communication, social relationships, play, and adaptive behavior
    2. Clinically significant loss of previously acquired skills (before age 10 years) in at least two of the following areas:
      1. expressive or receptive language
      2. social skills or adaptive behavior
      3. bowel or bladder control
      4. play
      5. motor skills
    3. Abnormalities of functioning in at least two of the following areas:
      1. qualitative impairment in social interaction (e.g., impairment in nonverbal behaviors, failure to develop peer relationships, lack of social or emotional reciprocity)
      2. qualitative impairments in communication (e.g., delay or lack of spoken language, inability to initiate or sustain a conversation, stereotyped and repetitive use of language, lack of varied make-believe play)
      3. restricted, repetitive, and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests, and activities, including motor stereotypies and mannerisms)
    4. The disturbance is not better accounted for by another specific pervasive developmental disorder or by schizophrenia.

  5. PDD NOS
    This category should be used when there is a severe and pervasive impairment in the development of reciprocal social interaction or verbal and nonverbal communication skills or when stereotyped behavior, interests, and activities are present but the criteria are not met for a specific pervasive developmental disorder, schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder, or avoidant personality disorder. For example, this category includes "atypical autism" – presentations that do not meet the criteria for autistic disorder because of late age at onset, atypical symptomatology, or subthreshold symptomatology, or all of these

Hi

My name is Marie and my son Anthony just turned 5 in April. He is speech delayed, developmental delay disorder, dyspraxia, anixiety and major senssory integration dysfunction. And the last few months he has been having behavoir issues. Lots of tantrums and he gets so mad and frustrated all the time. He is hypersensitive to certain voices and sounds. Freaks out about the loud speaker at school, or the stores, train stations, etc.. Even is someone says anything negative to him or someone near him, my son will have a fit and get angry and bite me or scratch me. He is not potty trained. He HATES to poop on the potty. He will have a major fit about going to poop.  He is seeing and OT and a behavior therapist. Both his therapist think he has PDD/NOS and his special ed teacher says no way.  His teacher says he has good eye contact and is social and does not stare into space?? So can someone tell me what the symptons of a PDD child is?? From the bit that I wrote so far does it sound like it? We saw a few doctor and they so no and we are seeing another one this month who says maybe? We saw her quickly in April. My son does not play with toys the right way,can not play with kids the right way, would rather toss the toys all over the place. he has poor muscle tone also. I am just rambling on here since I don't know how much room I have, but I REALLY need other people to talk with. I feel sooo lonely. Anthony pretends he is a loud speaker quite often and loves elevators and stairs. Talks about them alot.    My days are sooo very hard with him. My hair is getting gray!! I don't know how much more I can handle all these major fits and all the other things. I try so hard, but I can't seem to do it anymore. My daughter is 8 and I feel like all she sees is her little brother getting in trouble all the time.   Any support would be great and I am posting my e-mail address if anyone would like to talk. I just feel like I am stuck in pause and nothing is helping him and he is getting worse and worse. 

Marie   (marielyn@optonline.net)

Mom to Melissa 8 and Anthony 5


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