How much fish oil is ok for a child? | Autism PDD
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Hi all. Well I have been giving my 3 year old son Nordic Naturals Omega 3,6,9 Junior. I have been giving him 2 capsules which is the serving size. It contains 135 mg of EPA and 90 mg of DHA, as well as other omega's. Anyway, I really believe this is helping my son. I had been giving him just 1 capsules when he was 2, then I stopped for awhile because I thought it wasnt helping. But when I did, I noticed that he wasnt saying any of the words that he had been. He had about 13 words and 3 phrases, and then it went to nothing. So, I started again with 2 capsules a few weeks ago, and I have noticed that he is already babbling more and even his teacher was saying that he is starting to use the B sound very strongly. So, this is progress, even if it does go slowly. Anyway, for those of you who are giving your kids fish oil, how much do you give them? I have heard of some parents giving their kids quite a bit more than I am giving my son, but I am not sure if this is ok for him. The Omega 3,6,9 has 15 IU of vitamin E, and I am wondering if it would be okay for him to have more Vitamin E than this. Anyone have any info about all this? Well, I appreciate all of your help!
I just had another question if anyone can help. Should kids have a balanced formula of omega 3, 6, 9 or would it be ok for them to have just omega 3? Also, I am thinking of maybe giving my son an adult dosage of fish oil, but I want to make sure that is ok first. Thanks everyone!!
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed& cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16920077&am p;query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum
summary from the article
CONCLUSIONS: The results of this study provide preliminary evidence that omega-3 fatty acids may be an effective treatment for children with autism.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed& cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=15041031&am p;query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_DocSum
In the past year or so many studies have shown that supplementing with Fish Oils, or similar eg Flaxseed Oil, can be very beneficial for children with Autism, ADHD etc
eg
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=30929
forker
My kids are getting substantially more than that. We are giving them the cod liver oil by Nordi Natural (berry flavor - absolutely no fish flavor at all) The liquid It has a higher amount of EFA and DHA so I estimate that they ar getting around 1000 EFA and 700-800 DHA. THat doesn't include what they could be getting in foods. The only concern I have is the VItamin A that is in cod liver oil (not in fish oil). Too much Vitamin A can be toxic because it stays in the body longer.
I am not sure about the Vitamin E. SOrry I couldn't help more.
how do you find out about all of these things? My dd has a very limited diet consisting mainly of starchy foods (bread, crackers, pasta, waffles, pancakes, potatoes) and apples and pears. That is about all she eats.
Shelly!! you mentioned you daughter had delayed myelin. I have NEVER heard anyone yet that their child has delayed myelin. Ryan had a MRI done @ 3yr and 4yr that showed this. Can you give me more input on this? I have never really been told much about this and what it means and what you can do to help fix it.
Thanks
well- i need help, a few days ago my order arrived... i ordered the Arctic Cod Liver Oil Liquid-Strawberry flavor ( https://www.nordicnaturals.com/direct/prodsummary.asp?ID=75 )is this the wrong one?? is the vitamin A too much? ( i looked up for my son's age and he can have twice what's in this... daily) but now i'm confused...
my son has been taking it since friday... tonight he took it without a complaint even!
i don't know if there will be any effects yet... how long did it take for you to see a difference?
EVERYONE should take omega 3-6-9 fish oils. They help everyone with
brain function. I was prescribed them along with vitamin b supplements to
help with depression, and J's dev ped prescribed them for his brain
development along with a multi vitamin. Shelly, that is an absolutely
genious way to administer them! I'm gong to try it tomorrow.
They can also be stirred into yogurt or cooled oatmeal. That's the easiest
way to give them to Jasper, but of course he does not eat these items
everyday. All of you parents on this board have so many good ideas. Thanks
I want to try this with my son (and myself!).How do you know what dosage to give?
From the Nordic Naturals website
http://www.nordicnaturals.com/direct/faqs.asp
I didn t know you could give kids fish oil? Also dont know why ppl would want to take it. what is it used for?
We gave it to Sarah at 3 years old and it was capsules. I gave her 3 a day-I would poke a hole in them and squeeze them in measuring cup with a little syrup...draw up into med. syringe and give it to her that way. She had little words and delayed myelin at the time and this came highly recommended by DAN doctor and on the speechville website for apraxic children & language delays. We did it for a year and she went from severe articulation disorder to mastery of it:) Ours was nordic too but at that time they only had lemon flavored
Blessings,
Shelley
[QUOTE=panickedmomof2]how do you find out about all of these things? My dd has a very limited diet consisting mainly of starchy foods (bread, crackers, pasta, waffles, pancakes, potatoes) and apples and pears. That is about all she eats.[/QUOTE]Well
first off
we need to recognize that in a balanced healthy diet we would have
Proteins, Vitamins, Minerals, Essential Fats, and various Phtonutrients
knowing that in the limited diet of your child some of the above are missing, it becomes necessary to try and indentify where there are shortfalls and to try to correct them.
So to give you an idea of where to start
For Proteins there is Whey protein, which is what we use although there are other sources like Soy, Pea etc
For Vitamins and Minerals there are many supplements on the market. For our son we use a slimming diet powder and mix in with the Whey, both are flavoured chocolate and it makes a very nutritious drink. For vitamins and minerals not fully covered by the slimmers drink we add other supps and hide them in homemade chocolates.
Essential fatty Acids can simply be supplemented with either Fish Oil or Flaxseed oil.
Our son prefers the crunchy fruit and vege so he eats Apples and Carrots.
hope this helps
forker
Thanks everyone for your help!!
[QUOTE=mikki]well- i need help, a few days ago my order arrived... i ordered the Arctic Cod Liver Oil Liquid-Strawberry flavor ( https://www.nordicnaturals.com/direct/prodsummary.asp?ID=75 )
is this the wrong one?? is the vitamin A too much? ( i looked up for my son's age and he can have twice what's in this... daily) but now i'm confused...
my son has been taking it since friday... tonight he took it without a complaint even!
i don't know if there will be any effects yet... how long did it take for you to see a difference?
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Yes, you ordered the right one. Unlike the peach or lemon, this has absolutely no fish flavor at all so it is nice to either give it straight to the kids orally or you can blend it in things such as ice cream or shakes.
The Vit. A in the cod liver oil is okay, you just want to make sure your not giving him supplements with high doses of Vit. A or he is not consuming a ton of foods that are high in Vit A (an example would be that he loves to drink 24 oz of carrot juice a day - that may be too much).
For those who want to add more omegas in their diet. Just google Essential Fatty Acids or Omegas in foods. You will get a lot of websites that tell you what is high in EFAs/ Omegas. Just a small point about Flaxseed oil. Don't use it to cook with or even to heat because it looses its value. You could always blend it in a smoothie or a nutty milk shake. Just some thoughts.
Ryansmom:
I hope you got my pm on delayed myelin. There is no remedy for it..your child either improves with more myelin growing or it deteriates and you start to see worsening symptoms usually physical-it does affect language and since myelin covers the neurons that carry all messages to the brain I am sure it affects everything about them. Fish oil is the only thing I have researched for myelin repair and it's funny how it is promoted for speech in our kids.. has to be related. We treated Sarah as a child with autism and not delayed myelin because there is no therapies or meds for delayed myelin and she had way too many autistic symptoms to not treat her for autism. We did good. I thought since she had it and got an autism label that I would find many others but all I found to be true is that most autistic kiddos MRI are perfectly normal. Most kids with delayed myelin are not autistic but severely physically disabled & not mobile that gets worse as they age (like Lorenzo oil) so I am so blessed she did not have this. The neuro gave us no advice just that she has it and watch her. We worried ourselves sick! Because she had so many improvements that year we never had another MRI-
Shelley
Shelley,
Have you looked into the off label use of Actos? I am not saying to do it or if it directly benefits your child, but it reduced cell inflammation and Boris claims that after 8 mos of use it shows mylien regeneration. At least that was what he presented at the DAN conference in the Spring when I started my kids on it.
http://www.jneuroinflammation.com/content/4/1/3
[QUOTE=ShelleyR]
Ryansmom:
I hope you got my pm on delayed myelin. There is no remedy for it..your child either improves with more myelin growing or it deteriates and you start to see worsening symptoms usually physical-it does affect language and since myelin covers the neurons that carry all messages to the brain I am sure it affects everything about them. Fish oil is the only thing I have researched for myelin repair and it's funny how it is promoted for speech in our kids.. has to be related. We treated Sarah as a child with autism and not delayed myelin because there is no therapies or meds for delayed myelin and she had way too many autistic symptoms to not treat her for autism. We did good. I thought since she had it and got an autism label that I would find many others but all I found to be true is that most autistic kiddos MRI are perfectly normal. Most kids with delayed myelin are not autistic but severely physically disabled & not mobile that gets worse as they age (like Lorenzo oil) so I am so blessed she did not have this. The neuro gave us no advice just that she has it and watch her. We worried ourselves sick! Because she had so many improvements that year we never had another MRI-
Shelley
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Jenni, do you know what an ok amount of vitamin E is for a 3 year old?
Is there any protein in the fish oil supliments? My son is on a very restricted protein diet. It could harm him. My husband takes it and I couldn't find any info. on protein.
If you order an item from a web site, like Kirkman Labs (I use them), they should have a customer service e-mail address or 1-800 # that will educate you on proper dosages...But you must be with a reputable company, and of course, it's always best to speak with a doctor first.
I like the book "Prescription For Nutritional Healing" by Balch and Balch. I have owned the first three editions, and now I believe that the fourth edition is out.
[QUOTE=jen78fl]Jenni, do you know what an ok amount of vitamin E is for a 3 year old?
[/QUOTE]Have a look at these two sites
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminE/
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupplements/VitaminEcs.html
both pages have RDI for different age groups
regards
forker
[QUOTE=JanisA]Is there any protein in the fish oil supliments? My son is on a very restricted protein diet. It could harm him. My husband takes it and I couldn't find any info. on protein.[/QUOTE]
There shouldn't be protein in the fish oils supps.
Is your son supposed to be on a protein restricted diet
( ie Doctor prescribed )
or is it a self-imposed diet
( a fussy eater )
what information about proteins did you want
regards
forker
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