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hyperbaric chamber?

what is it?you are using the mild hyperbarics, right?

Has anyone tried this treatment yet?  We were able to purchase a home unit and are seeing promising results and wondered what others saw.

 

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What is hyperbarics??

Yes, we are using the mild hyperbaric ( 4 lbs. per square inch).    The chamber looks like a tanning bed and it is in our living room.  We have been using it for about a month (takes several months to see results).  Since I work with several autism consultants we are using my son's progress to do research.  We did some pretesting in behavior, language, social-emotional, sensory, and speech.  And then in 6 months will repeat the testing and hope to get the study published.  Like I said, we seem to be seeing some intial things and people who don't know about us using it are saying "something seems different in John".  So I wondered if anyone else was using it.

?? could someone please tell me what this is?

 

Sorry...........iti s a hyperbaric chamber.....like the ones used for divers.  There is priliminary research coming out that it increases blood flow in the brains of kids with autism where the flow was previously limited.  You can go to a center to use one (but most places won't do it as they say it isn't approved for anything but diving).   We were able to get one of the home units a few months ago.  My husband works for a tv station here and we  are going to be eventually doing a story and running it on the stations website.

Hi all,

I just stumbled upon this message board and saw that HBOT was the topic and that Miracle Mountain was mentioned.  We took our son, Ross, there just after his 4th birthday (he is now 5). To get more information go to www.miraclemountain.com. The expenses were extremely reasonable.   For 40 dives over 20 days and lodging the total was approximately $3200.00 which also included the Oxysound Harmonics program (similar to AIT which typically runs $1200.00 for 10 days).  Below are my comments on the improvements we saw with Ross.  I hope this helps and is not too long!

We did observe significant differences in Ross. Our first observation was when my husband and I were standing on the deck of the house at a group barbecue and Ross ran up to my husband and asked “Hey Dad, do you want to play ball?”  We were both astonished because Ross typically used fragmented sentences or much shorter ones. This was the most complex statement/question we had ever heard from him.  This occurred after only 11 dives. 

 Other changes we noticed occurred while at Miracle Mountain and for months afterwards.  His verbal communication steadily improved and he began to initiate conversation with us and others at Miracle Mountain. Other parents noticed how his interest in the other children had increased over the first couple of weeks.  Initially, he happily played independently and then shortly thereafter he actively showed an interest in others and solicited their attention.  He became more connected to what was happening around him and much less sensitive to noises that previously had bothered him following the Oxy-harmonic sessions.

 After we returned home family and friends immediately noticed the changes in his attention, communication, and connection to the world around him. When he entered a room or home he sought people out to say hello as he used their names.  The many cousins and children of friends were so excited that they ran to report his communication to their parents. In the past he had found it necessary to explore the entire house on his own and would be happy playing in a room alone. Now, he excitedly greets everyone and invites them to play.  It was a good time for us all!

His therapists reported improvements in his communication and behavior right away as well.  I did not tell a few key therapists about our trip to Miracle Mountain to find out if they would notice any differences without bias.  They did notice improvements as well.  I

I am not sure that our results are typical and know from talking to other parents that were at Miracle Mountain with us that, though they all noticed improvements none were as significant as Ross’.  Ross was the youngest child, highest functioning child, and least severe in terms of ASD symptoms in the group to receive HBOT.  It is my belief that the younger your child is able to receive HBOT the better. 

A recent study was conducted and published in 2006 entitled,Hyperbaric Oxygen Treatment May Improve Symptoms in Autistic Chidren, by Daniel and Lanier Rossignol in the Medical Hypotheses Journal, which found improvements in communication, etc. following HBOT. If you are interested in reading this research let me know and I can forward it to you.

The article noted that younger children did better. Not, that older kids will not do well but they may require more than 40 dives to see improvements.

I would personally recommend HBOT. For those of you who are worried about your child not liking the chamber I want you to know that the first couple of days was difficult for everyone as we learned to clear our ears, etc.  However, even the most severe reactions (and some were pretty severe) were absent within a few days.  At Miracle Mountain parents (up to 5 kids and 5 adults at a time) and kids go into the tank together and are able to read, play games, watch movies through a port-hole, etc. as long as nothing metal or combustive is used.

I hope this helps. I wish you all luck and look forward to learning more from this forum.

The great thing about the mhbot is that we could bring in drinks, food and a portable dvd player.  So there wasn't an issue.  It is really spacious if you get one of the large ones.

There is a place called Miracle Montain in NC that offers dives for the hard chamber and it is super inexpensive...like aorund $30-40 a dive...they offer lodging there that is around the same price per night.

There is a group of us looking to rent one for $2000 a month.  So maybe that is an option...find a company that rents and do a join rental b/w 2-4 people.

Our home chamber cost around $15,000.   My husband works for a TV station here and shoots their commercials.  He struck a deal with the HBOT owner that we would film John's progress and the health reporter is going to do it with us.  Then it would run on the tv stations site as well as the HBOT site....he knocked off $3,000 for that.  Like I said....we are very lucky to have had all this fall into place the way it did.

 

Hi Tricia!  My ds had 4 sessions at a clinic a few hours away, a few months ago...and we did notice a difference right away (after 2nd session I believe).  He began to say things that he'd never said before, like  "Hi daddy, this is Matthew" when dh called from work.

Unfortunately we do not have a rich uncle and the sessions are not cheap, especially when you combine it with the long drive.  However, we are trying to save up to purchase our own unit...hopefully sometime in the near future.

 My son had 12 sessions.  He was almost 5 at the time.  He was very hyper at the time, did not seem to make much difference with that.  Speech had no definite improvement by the time I stopped it.  At least 30 sessions was recommended.  I was feeling drained financially with all these stuff I was unsure of.  If it wasn't so expensive I probably would have continued.I really don't like the idea at all, looks like torture to me and not worth it at all.  Sharlet would hate it. JMHO


I'm curious to know too if anyone else has seen improvements.  We are thinking about doing this for Cami.  But thy recommend 40 sessions....and at $100 per session and not covered by insurance, it's way out of our budget.  I've yet to hear from parents who actually have seen results.  I've only read testimonials from the HBOT companies.  Mamasquash, please keep us posted.  Thanks!I know it is really expensive and we had no centers around here.  My are lucky to have my husband's uncle who is approaching 100 years old and is a  millionaire.  He believes in natural healing (he is almost 100 so you can't argue with him!) and he purchased it for our son.  We are so blessed to have him.  Since I work with people from a university in our area who study autism we are running this as a study and hope to get it published in the next few years.Allegra, you'd be surprised how comfy they are inside....really!  I got inside of course, with Matthew because I just knew he'd hate it and I'd have to try to distract him.  Do you know that even now, months later he asks to go there to "the tent" (that is what he called it, a 'tent').  He absolutely loved it and would get mad when he had to get out.  I was so shocked!Hmm, that surprises me, of course that is different.

I have seen footage of parents forcing their children to get in them, the child hysterrical and looking very upset about being in there.  In that case I don't personally think it's right.  The child should have rights.  JMHO
No, I couldn't force Matthew to do it.  For one, he's a very strong boy...very strong!  For another, it would break my heart to do that to him! momtoMatthew39103.2975810185When we got it we just set it up and let John explore it not turned on.  He has always loved enclosed spaces and took right too it.   It fits two adults comfortably so there is lots of room.  My husband went in with him at first and just for as long as John wanted to be in there.  Within 2-3 days John was coming to our bedroom at 5:00 am with a pillow and book saying "I want to go chamber".  He loves it!!!  I wouldn't have forced it.....we just let him take the lead and he loves it!!!Curious to know how much these chambers cost.Sharlet screams if I put her in the shower, so I just can't imagine her being o.k with it.

I witnessed several children coming out of the chambers, they all seemed quite relaxed and happy.  I was waiting for my first appointment with a DAN doctor and the waiting room was right next to the hbot room.  All the children went in with their moms, and according to the doctor I saw the mom's also benefit from this treatment.

My son is using HBOT now in conjunction with a supplement called Monavie Active.  He has only had 2 dives and it is incredible.  He is very high functioning, but I still have seen differences after each dive.  Check out our story

http://www.mymonavie.com/hartigan/mystory.asp

I have done lots of research and have composed lots of testimonials if anyone is interested.  Also we share the product with people for free.  If it helps your child as much as it has helped mine, you will want to get it for them.

This sounds so interesting! I will be checking into it in Minnesota.  I know that my son would be scared at first, but if I let him explore like you let your son explore it, I know he would do it.  It is like they have to have that power, to check things out before they try it.  I am glad that you are seeing some improvements.  Thank you for the information.

Also, Allegra, with Sharlet, have you tried letting her hold one of those shower heads that has a hose?  I just got one for Eric and he is in that shower for at least half an hour now.  Of course, with Eric, he has always loved water.  I know that the shower thing wasn't really the subject of this string, but I just wanted to mention it.  And the picture of Sharlet is just SO cute!

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