I don't know anything about these programs, but I HAVE heard that Tomatis is very good. Ask them to compare each program for you so that you can understand the difference.The programs are very similar. Actually, they should be interchangeable as
far as "training" goes. There's not much involved. They use the same
headphones, and follow the same protocol. Many parents do this at home
with no "training" at all....just the CD's with the engineered music are
different. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. But I learned how to do
the listening program in about 2 minutes.
I actually listened to both programs myself. The Listening Program is a bit
gentler on the system. Tomatis is a bit harsher to listen to. Our OT uses
The LIstening Program on kids with really pronounced auditory sensitivities
for this reason. She uses Tomatis for other reasons. I will say, that even I
found Tomatis hard on the brain as a first time listener.What is the listening program?
I recently purchased the listening program
http://www.advancedbrain.com/tlp_intro.asp
I am going to use it with my three year old diagnosed with pdd, my 16 month old diagnosed with pdd, and my other 16 month old with speech delays.
I am going to wait to start the program in about another 30 days. I started the omega 3 supp about a month ago and i want to see if i get results from the supplemnts first to see if there is a difference when i try the listening program.
I scheduled an IEP meeting recently for my three year old to discuss the listening program with his teachers/therapists to see if they thought it might be good for him. The idea was shot down by EVERYONE at the table. Mostly based becasue there is no evidence it works and neither the district or the school (OOD) wanted to pay to train someone to provide the program.
Since we are on a tight budget, i am going to do the program myself. I am listening to the cd's myself first.
HOpe this helps
I can't give you the text book definition but I consider it a god send. It's a program where you listen to altered music (the low tone is taken out) for 30 mins 2x a day for 12 weeks. It works on the tactile, proprioceptive AND vestibular systems. Something about the inner ear and the whole body. All I know is after 2 weeks I noticed a HUGE difference in my son. It's amazing!!!
I recently purchased the listening program
http://www.advancedbrain.com/tlp_intro.asp
I am going to use it with my three year old diagnosed with pdd, my 16 month old diagnosed with pdd, and my other 16 month old with speech delays.
I scheduled an IEP meeting recently for my three year old to discuss the listening program with his teachers/therapists to see if they thought it might be good for him. The idea was shot down by EVERYONE at the table. Mostly based becasue there is no evidence it works and neither the district or the school (OOD) wanted to pay to train someone to provide the program.
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Our therapist told us it shouldn't be done with anyone under two so I would consult someone prior to using it with the 16 month olds.
At my son's IEP, noone had even heard of it except for the OT. My son is the 1st child in our system to ever get it in school. The only reason I think I got them to agree to it is I had reports put the wazoo at the IEP from the Dev Ped, therapists, Dr's from big named hospitals etc... I tried to go in as heavily armed as possible. It worked as far as getting everything I wanted in the IEP. Now if I can get them to do everything in the IEP.
We were doing it at home as well but from what I gather there's different CD's for different stages of the therapy and the training is to decipher when to take the next step.
[QUOTE=MamaKat]I actually listened to both programs myself. The Listening Program is a bit
gentler on the system. Tomatis is a bit harsher to listen to. Our OT uses
The LIstening Program on kids with really pronounced auditory sensitivities
for this reason. She uses Tomatis for other reasons. I will say, that even I
found Tomatis hard on the brain as a first time listener. [/QUOTE]
Can you explain harsher? I've listened to the Frick method myself and found it to have a great effect on me. Harsher doesn't sound like something I want to give my son.
My son never acknowledge the existence of other kids - most of the time not even his own brother. After a few weeks he started going up to kids in the waiting room and touching them and getting in there face saying Hi Boy or Hi Girl over and over until they acknowledge them. His receptive language had a giant burst, he follows commands now (when he chooses too anyway). Weird things too like all of a sudden now, if his pant leg rises, he has to stop and pull it down. Before he wouldn't have even noticed. He calls his brother by name and asks him to play a particular toy. It's been a few weeks and I still tear up. I honestly could go on and on about changes I've noticed. I am so excited to be starting it again.
[QUOTE=Brent]DANIEL HAD AIT/TOMAIS BOTH. [/QUOTE]
Can you explain the difference between the AIT and the Tomatis? Because those are the two I haven't done yet. I'd really appreciate it.
Plus what do the scores mean? I don't think our method did that or nobody told me anyway.
My son was doing the Therapeutic Listening Program (Sheila Frick) until he turned three in Nov and transitioned into preschool. The school told me today that they only have some one trained in The Listening Therapy (Tomatis). Does anyone know the difference or any type of comparison info?? I just don't know if I'm happy changing methods. I also heard there is a third method as well. Anyone know where I can compare them?
Thanks,
Maureen
AIT AFTER DANIEL DID QUIT COVERING THE EARS. HE DID THE SUMMER BEFORE 1ST GRADE. DANIEL DOES MORE ON HIS OWN NOW.Well for Declan we saw incredible results and he barely did ½ the sessions. Hopefully the school will be ready to start him when vacation is over. *crossing my fingers* that the Tomatis is as successful as the Frick one.
FWIW, I would pay out of pocket if I had too. It made that big a difference. I wonder how much age plays a part in its success rates. Declan was just a little over 2½.
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bumpThere are some research studies that display that AIT and Tomatis have positive results, but there are plenty of other studies that indicate that there is no change to the child.
Does anybody know how difficult it is to get the school to provide this for my son cause i think i want him to try it.
[QUOTE=MiamiPDDmom]Does anybody know how difficult it is to get the school to provide this for my son cause i think i want him to try it.
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My guess is it would totally depend on the school system itself. My son is the 1st to do it at his school. I think the only reason they were so agreeable was because he had already been doing it with documented success AND it was recommended by Boston Cildren's Hospital in their evaluation. I am finding the school is hesitant to fight their recommendations. At least so far.
That said, he started school in November and they just got the program this week and still have to train the therapists. It'll be spring probably before they actually get started.
Ben had AIT over the summer, I cannot tell any changes in him at all. His slp did it for us.