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Hi, newbie here.  Father of a 3.5 year old "mild to moderate autistic" son.  My son has BM problems.  I am researching to see what I can find out.  To be short and to the point, here is our problem....

My son does not have formed BM's.  He seems to go ALOT (5-6 times today) and they are never solid and never very big.  Usually (sorry if I'm too graphic) they stay in his butt-crack.   We saw a specialist before but it seemed he was somewhat normal then and not experiencing these problems. 

 

Any advice/suggestions would be appreciated.  Hope you all are well and enjoying your blessings.  Take care, me in South Dakota

Try cutting dairy? That did the trick for my boys, as well as improving other areas of their lives as well. That is the only advice I have.

I hope you figure it out!


I'm sorry to hear of your problem. I don't have this issue so honestly no advice. I just wanted to respond because I saw your name and wanted to say "Hi" to another south dakotan

Amber

South Dakota,

Just wanted to say welcome to the board!!  My son has not had trouble with Bm's but I've heard and read about alot of children in the spectrum that do.  You've already gotten a lot of different good advice here so I just wanted to say welcome!!  Take care,

Karrie

Hi! Im new also!  and I just wanted to share with you that my son is now 5 but earlier when he was 2 he had BM problems as well and they were so bad that we would have to go to the emergency room and they would always give little andrew an enema. the enemas were heart breaking because they looked so painful for such a small child- but we stopped giving him milk and started giving him soy milk- silk* soy milk- they make many flavors and Little Andrew hasnt had a bm problem since then - he is very regular and no pain - we never know he has boo boo' till we check his pull-up or smell something !

                                        So please for the childs comfort - change the milk!

Soy milk !

Sorry to hear you guys are having troubles, I have no expert advice except to share this.

When we went to see the naturopath about Owens diet, and helping Autism. She told us to remove dairy, but because he has no issues with BM we didn't need to remove gluten. Maybe wheat is the trouble?

 

hey southdakota, i'm right there with you.have the same problems here.my peds sent him to have a sweat test done to see if he had cystic fibroses. big negative there,thankfully, but carlo's always had loose stools, never formed or no pebbles as we like to call it. there's some days he won't go at all and others i swear i change him every time i turn around. as a matter of fact we've been going thru this since sat. night. he's went a total of 22 times since sat. ouch

Leaky Gut and Bowel Movement--Sorry

BOL for IBS

Also,.... there is an autism National call center that might be able to point you in the right direction for answers or help. Their number is 1-866-366-3361 (thats toll free I believe)

I agree with the removal of dairy ... it's fairly easy and not too costly.  See if that impacts things at all (no pun intended ).  I'm sure you've been trying to increase his fiber intake as well, right?  My son Luke, who is 2, used to be extremely constipated, and then started having the non-formed movements that you describe.  It was a frequent battle between one extreme and the other.  We removed dairy from his diet and he gets a decent amount of fiber.  Now he has nicely formed movements (and even in the little potty on occasion!).

Good luck!
Kellie

My son has the same problem and i am at a lost he has been pee trained for 3 months now and has no problem with that-but has 3-4 bm's a day in his underwear and denies it until i go to search. and they are all loose and as i put it looks like pudding. he has never had a normal bm in his life he is 3 1/2 and cutting dairy-he is allergic to dairy so that is not his problem. so i am at a lost for the problem and the solution. when he was little he had an upper gi and lower gi and they came to the conclusion he had sever reflux. and has been on meds since he was 3 months old. also they found out his upper intestines are higher up in his chest than normal.

any body with any advice would be helpful.

Hi South Dakota,

I am brand new to this forum, but it seems we have a lot in common.  My 6-yr. old son is diagnosed with PDD-NOS.  He has the same BM troubles.  Very small, fairly loose, and VERY frequent.  5-6 times a day is normal for him.  Wash day is a joy   I am taking jedi mom of 6's advice and trying to cut back on dairy.  I'm not sure if we can eliminate it altogether, but we'll try.  Surprisingly, he actually likes soy milk!   We have discussed this with the developmental pediatrician, the regular pediatrician, the OT, the classroom teacher, the autism specialist, etc.  We have tried fiber therapy at the suggestion of the pediatrician, but it's not easy to get him to drink that stuff.  We haven't seen it have much effect, either.

Only recently has my son made any progress.  He always goes in his underwear, and will deny having a BM if I ask him.  Only when I threaten to check his underwear will he tell the truth.  I think the type of BM he has is affecting his ability to toilet train.

However, he had an experience two weeks ago that has had a profound effect on him.  Not to go into too much detail, but he occasionally gets constipated, then passes a HUGE BM.  Well, on this particular day, he had one of those.  They are so large they would cause ME pain to pass them.  Anyway, the unusual thing was that this was followed by diarrhea.  For an hour and a half he couldn't stay off the toilet for 5 minutes.  Then he had ANOTHER HUGE BM.  I have never seen him have 2 in one week, much less one day.  He was so uncomfortable! 

Now when he wants cheese, we tell him that it will make it harder for him to poop, and he'll choose a different snack.  I really think that he does not want to go through that again.  The other day he told us he needed to go, and headed for the bathroom.  He actually sat long enough to go!  He has had a BM on the toilet only a handful of times in his entire life.  We were so proud.  Hopefully he will recognize the urge to go and act on it.

I guess to sum up, we are trying to cut back on dairy.  But I honestly believe kids like this will only learn when they are ready.  Whatever the issue, they just aren't ready for that level of independence.  As always, I need to follow his lead.

Good luck with your son.  Keep me posted on his progress.
Zippeer, good luck with the diet changes. I know hy gut gets loose if he gets too much fruit.  In 4 years I've had only one occasion to give him prune juice. BUTT he drank it like it was soda. and it worked
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