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enikkibaby Senior Member


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They were supposed to take the mercury out of vaccines, but it is still
there. I am sure there are other moms out there who can explain why
this is, all I know is it is. the mercury is STILL in the vaccines.
They are still giving young poor pregnant moms TONS of tuna for free
from the government and telling them it is good for their fetus.
I think thimerosal TRIGGERED autism, and it needs to be gone. But I
don't know how we are going to do it. I can't go to the rally in DC. I
wish we could all do something HUGE. <sigh> Once I graduate, I
will have lots more time for that sort of thing.
__________________ Single mother of 6 year old twin boys- both autistic- BOTH the cutest, sweetest little boys in the whole world!
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veroniquasmom Groupie


Joined: July 13 2005 Location: United States
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Well as i have posted before We had a horrible expierence with the MMR and Chickenpox Vaccine! I honestly wish i could prove thats what caused the autism Since it is nowhere we know of in family history!!! I know one thing my child will never recieve another vaccine again!!!! And I do agree the CDC is a JOKE!!!
__________________ Loving mother of 3 girls on PDDNOS one ADHD and one with nothing! Soon to be a mother of 4!
Angie
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karjab30 Veteran


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ok...LOL I'm gonna play devil's advocate here..lol
what about the children out there that have never recieved an imunization? Or been exposed to any mercury?
Karrie
__________________ Mom to Billy 15 (adhd) Lisa 13 NT Adam 6 (Pdd-nos) Addison (2) Aiden (9 months)
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tabitha Postmaster General


Joined: March 01 2005 Location: United States
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| Posted: July 20 2005 at 8:43am | IP Logged
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You know they did absolutely no research on what mercury does when it interacts with certain genes and environmental factors. I mean sure they have these research groups for different meds. I know my kids pca does that but she gets paid over 2 grand for each research study she is in. Now if they want to start a research area for this and pay us that is totally different. But this is the exact same government that tested acid, cocaine, pcp, and other illegal drugs on their own citizens and then tried to cover it up.
Tammy
__________________ Mom to Jeffrey,16,autism, pdd-nos,adhd,add, ocd associated with autism; and Gabe,13,chronic asthma,overall global delays, hearing processing delay, severe allergies, pdd-nos.
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Ftlse Newbie

Joined: July 02 2005 Location: United States
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| Posted: July 20 2005 at 10:17am | IP Logged
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From what I've heard about the therimisol is that the FDA outlawed the
production of it in vaccines, so the vaccines are no longer being
made. However those vaccines w/ it in them, were still allowed to be
sold. Some distributors are still distributing the vaccine (legally)
w/ the therimisol until there are no longer any left.
Does anyone know what % of children have an ASD? And what is the
% of children having any kind of reaction (not necessarily autism) to a
vaccine? Just curious...
My son reacted to the MMR, he actually got a mild case of the
measles. He was 18 months old. I'm not sure that has
anything to do with him being on the spectrum or not, but it certainly
seems rather interesting. Perhaps it did "trigger"
something. But if there is something there to be triggered
wouldn't that happen eventually? In retrospect he did seem to
change somewhat, but then again wouldn't the behaviors become more
apparent around that time just because of his age? He's 30 months
old and just got the initial diagnosis of having an asd. We're
waiting for the psych eval to determine which one.
And someone mentioned the chicken pox vaccine... My daughter got the
chicken pox anyway even after getting the vaccine... Should I worry
about her too? She's 4.5.
This is all very overwhelming and frightening.
Christie
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veroniquasmom Groupie


Joined: July 13 2005 Location: United States
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As in my casemy daughter got the chicken pox and the measles at the same time!! Both caused from the vaccine! It was a 3 month nightmare Blisters from head to toe! When she had the reaction She started Delays, Tantrums stopped making eye contact and lost the speach that she had! It took 2 yrs for me to hear mama or mom! I was dada too!
__________________ Loving mother of 3 girls on PDDNOS one ADHD and one with nothing! Soon to be a mother of 4!
Angie
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tabitha Postmaster General


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No not true, the FDA did not outlaw it, they suggested and recommended that the mercury be removed. There is a big difference there. And an organization did some testing of the vaccines and the mercury was still in it.
Tammy
__________________ Mom to Jeffrey,16,autism, pdd-nos,adhd,add, ocd associated with autism; and Gabe,13,chronic asthma,overall global delays, hearing processing delay, severe allergies, pdd-nos.
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ZachiesMom Senior Member


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There is still thermisol in the Flu vaccine, the MMR vaccine, and the newly introduced not that many years ago Hep B vaccine has thermisol in it. *smiles* found that out from Zach's Dr. when Jaydin was born.... and me the dumb "gonna do what they tell me" mother vaccinated Zach with the Hep B shot right at the hospitol when He was first born.... Not Jaydin... and right now Chris and i are contemplating looking for a new Dr. because ours says He can't get thermisol free vaccines... which i think is just a line of crap, although up till now He's worked with us and been very understanding of our concerns...
I am one of the believers that mercury is a FACTOR, not the main cause. I believe Zachary probably was predispositioned for Autism... His father has some Aspergers tendancies... anti-social, really set on routine, gets fixated on things sometimes. My brother has ADHD and didn't speak till He was four. My mother and sister both suffer from depression. So there is some mental disease in my family. However... Zachary was a neurotypically developing child untill He recieved His MMR shot and flu vaccine at 12 months old. He developed a 104.5 fever that kept going down and back up for a week. After that he started to regress and eventually wasn't there. I lived in Denial about Zachary's issue untill September of last year. I am one of the ones that holds the belief that our environment and the mercury colliding with our babies genes have caused this...
These are things to think about people.... Autism was not recongnized untill somewhere in the 1930's... now yes there is evidence to support that some of our more genius classical music composers and artists had a form of an ASD.... but it wasn't how it is now.... The other thing is... i'll go look for it, but Michelle posted an article about the Amish community and autism. Why doesn't Autism exist within the Amish community??? Could it be because they do not vaccinate thier children and are segragated from most of the world, not dealing with a lot of the environmental pollutants that we do everyday???
If the government did take all the thermisol filled vaccines off the shelf in 99 (which we know they didn't) We should be seeing a decline in the rate Autism is being DXed this year. It wouldn't of happened right away, but from what i've read, it should start to decline this year.
__________________ Sarah...
Wife to Chris, Mom of Zach-severe autism and Jade... Both perfect in everyway. No matter what the label says they are God's precious gifts.
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tabitha Postmaster General


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Look at China. They did not have one case of autism until the U.S. started importing their vaccines there. Now you don't expect me to believe what the CDC is saying that there is no link between mercury and autism and the vaccines? There is , they just will not admit it. Go back and look at their position on the AIDS virus. It took them years to change their stance on that one.
Tammy
__________________ Mom to Jeffrey,16,autism, pdd-nos,adhd,add, ocd associated with autism; and Gabe,13,chronic asthma,overall global delays, hearing processing delay, severe allergies, pdd-nos.
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shakes352 Senior Member

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The woman i spoke to at the ARC in my area said that the numbers out of California that just came out actually did show a bit of a decline, they use California for primary tracking because the data is so detailed. and now here's my $1.45, i won't say 2cents because it would be a gross underestimate LOL.
I do believe that mercury does play apart in the autistic puzzle, a rather big part actually. I also believe that there is a genetic disposition to itaswell, wether it's a weakened immune system or a genetic disposition to nuerological disorders. my son was different from birth, he received all of his immunizations on time, including the hep b at birth. the govt. requested that the mercury be removed in 1999, wasn't that sweet of them LOL, the pharm companies still can sell the vaccines and are allowed to dispense them until they run out, alot of vaccines are covered by patent rights so we may never know what is actually in them, they same ditributer may have a vaccine with .0001 mg of ethol mercury and one with 200 mg of mercury. here's what i do know, vaccines are not bad, mercury used in vaccines as perservatives are bad. unfortunately we are all exposed to mercury it's in our food, water, teeth and air. mass vaccinations in the US were introduced in 1939, autism was first discovered in 1941. personally, i think our kids are being poisoned and the govt will never admit to it, there is too much money at stake and unfortunately, money is the bottom line.
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